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Reflections of a Non-Mormon Historian
Signature Books Library ^ | Lawrence Foster

Posted on 04/07/2011 5:51:50 PM PDT by delacoert

Until the past thirty-five years the very idea of Mormon history was viewed as something of a joke by most professional historians. Despite the massive outpouring of dissertations and books devoted to studying Mormon history, virtually none were known or treated seriously outside the ranks of a handful of western history buffs, social historians, and other enthusiasts with highly specialized interests. Brigham Young University dissertations were seen as providing the classic stereotype of the genre. No matter what the topic, each dissertation seemed to begin with Joseph Smith's first vision and end with a reaffirmation of the author's faith in the restored Mormon gospel. In between, almost as an afterthought, were sandwiched enormous masses of undigested data with no apparent organizing principle. Sober Mormon scholars could spend inordinate amounts of time trying to find evidence that Joseph Smith had really seen an angel—an argument that had about as much interest for non-Mormon historians as the debates of medieval scholastics over how many angels could dance on the head of a pin. Though Mormon history was written in English, it might just as well have appeared in an undeciphered foreign tongue for all the sense it made to the secular American scholar.

As a non-Mormon historian initially trying to get through this massive body of writing in order to better understand the controversial origin and early development of Mormon polygamy, I struggled to comprehend the basis for this seemingly pointless collection of data. What was it that made Mormon historical writing so dull to an outsider yet of such importance to an insider? Why, I wondered, did Mormon historians characteristically take their complex and fascinating history and turn it into pablum? Above all why were Mormons so preoccupied with detail and so uninterested in larger conceptual frameworks? Why did Mormons never do anything intellectually with their history?

The answer was a long time in coming, but eventually it became clear to me that in the last analysis to be a Mormon meant to accept the idea that Mormonism explained everything. Mormons did not use theories from other disciplines—with some rare exceptions—because they felt that they already knew all the answers (at least all the answers that really mattered). Most Mormon scholarship thus was simply a footnote which added more evidence to an already well-known and well-loved story. Mormon control and insularity extended even to the thinking of historians themselves and to their writing. It seemed that there were almost no intellectuals within Mormonism—or outside it for that matter—who could step back and view it freshly. Most Mormon scholars still appeared to think almost exclusively within old categories. Disaffected Mormons did no better; they simply stood traditional Mormon arguments on their head. Instead of being a pasteboard saint, for instance, Joseph Smith was a malicious fraud. Even Fawn Brodie in her path-breaking biography No Man Knows My History spent too much of her time carping that her Sunday school image of Joseph Smith had not been the full picture. And as always the vast majority of non-Mormons outside the areas of Mormon cultural influence remained largely uninterested in such internal squabbles.

This isolation of Mormon scholarship from the mainstream of American historical writing was, it seemed to me, a most unfortunate situation. For in Mormonism, if anywhere in recent American life, was the sort of group that could provide almost "an ideal laboratory" for the social and intellectual historian of the sort that Perry Miller had found in earlier New England Puritans. Growing out of deeply American roots, Mormon people rejected the pluralism of the dominant culture, and indeed of the modern world. They instead set up a distinctive way of life and in their own manner challenged a host of commonly held assumptions about the way modern society inevitably must develop. And notwithstanding the great difficulties that they faced, Mormons had been remarkably successful—not simply in their own terms but also in terms of the wealth and power that the external society viewed as so significant. Surely both Mormons and non-Mormons could learn something of value about the extraordinary complexity of social change and the varied options for human development from the rich experience of the Latter-day Saints.

Fortunately during the past thirty-five years numerous scholars have begun raising such questions and taking steps to bridge the gap between Mormon history and the scholarly world. Thomas O'Dea's fine sociological study in 1957, The Mormons, showed that an outsider could write sympathetically and fairly about Mormons as a people among peoples, raising a host of issues with broader implications. Leonard Arrington's economic analysis in Great Basin Kingdom, a year later, showed that a committed insider could place the epic Mormon struggle to develop the Intermountain West into a larger context with meaning for other developing societies. Much of the best scholarship in Mormon history began to focus on the group's political aspirations and activities and the ways that those had been related to American values. Klaus Hansen in Quest for Empire started to reconstruct the activities of the secret Council of Fifty, a body which was potentially revolutionary in its rejection of American pluralism. Robert Flanders, in Nauvoo: Kingdom on the Mississippi, portrayed the social and economic life of Nauvoo, Illinois, viewing it as an unconventional Jacksonian boom town. And Jan Shipps used sophisticated sampling techniques to study attitudes toward Mormonism in the popular press—showing that however strange Mormonism might appear, it still could be subjected to statistical analysis.

By the mid-1960s and early 1970s, three closely related developments emerged out of the growing interest in Mormon history. First, chronologically speaking, was the founding of the Mormon History Association in 1965. Representing all varieties of Mormon, RLDS, and non-Mormon perspectives, the MHA has grown into an organization of more than a thousand members, publishing its own journal and attracting hundreds of participants to its annual meetings. Second, and almost simultaneous with the founding of the MHA, was the establishment of Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought in 1966. Seeking genuine dialogue not simply between Mormons of different persuasions but also between Mormons and non-Mormons who shared their ideas within its pages, Dialogue has continued to tackle important and often controversial issues which could not receive full consideration by in-house publications. Third, and in many ways most important, was the appointment in 1972 of a highly respected professional historian, Leonard Arrington, to head a reorganized and revitalized LDS Church Historical Department in Salt Lake City. Convinced that full and well-informed accounts could only strengthen the Mormon church in the long run, Arrington and his associates—who at their peak numbered nearly twenty full-time historians—encouraged the opening of the church archives to serious scholars, both Mormon and non-Mormon alike, and began to put out many important studies themselves. A sense of excitement and exhilaration was generated as increasing numbers of Latter-day Saints began to develop a direct, personal sense of their own history, a deeper appreciation of the richness and complexity of the Mormon past.

Great strides have certainly been made by Mormons during the past two decades in developing a truly informed, professional, and compelling history of their faith. Increasing numbers of non-Mormons scholars too have come to appreciate more fully the enormous social vitality of Latter-day Saints. In the face of such achievements, it is particularly disappointing that so few non-Mormons have also become interested in the scholarly investigation of Mormonism as a religious movement. With the exception of Jan Shipps and a handful of others, non-Mormon scholars have shown little serious interest in the inner religious life that has given meaning to the external social activities of Latter-day Saints.

This oversight is not accidental. To state the situation bluntly, most educated non-Mormons still find the religious side of Latter-day Saints (as opposed to their purely social achievements) at best opaque. The growing respect for Mormon social history has not spread as yet, except in rare cases, to respect for Mormon beliefs. During the past two decades I have been at many informal non-Mormon gatherings in scholarly conferences at which the subject of Mormonism has arisen. Almost invariably at least one individual has turned to me and said something along the following lines: "One thing about them has always puzzled me. I have a valued Mormon colleague who seems to be an otherwise fine and intelligent person, but frankly it baffles me how any thinking individual could believe what he does. I just can't understand it."

I can understand this sense of disbelief as well. After all this was my own initial reaction both to Mormons and to their history. Before I got to know Mormons better, they chiefly appeared to be hardworking, clean-cut, loyal, thrifty, brave, clean, reverent—and utterly boring. No group ever talked more about free will (or in Mormon parlance "free agency") yet in practice seemed to exercise free will less in important matters. I was vividly reminded of a cartoon that showed a large, overbearing woman talking with her neighbor while her small, shy husband dutifully sat on the couch, his hands meekly folded. The woman was saying: "Hubert has a will of iron; he just seldom gets a chance to use it." This for me was the epitome of Mormonism and why I found it basically uninteresting and even sometimes distasteful.

Popular Mormon history merely reinforced this stereotype. Mormons throughout history, it seemed, had always been paragons of virtue, dedicated to the faith 100 percent or more. They had never had any doubts or problems except how better to spread the "gospel" among non-Mormons, who for inexplicable reasons were adamantly opposed to accepting the "truth." For me to give any credence to such Pollyanna-ish writing was impossible. Even without any knowledge of what had actually gone on, I was certain that the official version could not be the full story. Surely there must be more to Mormon history than such naive accounts indicated if their church had been able to achieve the remarkable degree of success that it had.

My investigation of what has sometimes been called "the New Mormon History" finally led me into real appreciation of the Mormon past and what Mormonism might become in the future. In beginning research for a 1973 paper on the origin of Mormon polygamy, I fortuitously decided to read systematically through all the back issues of Dialogue to see what the current historical and religious concerns of Mormonism were. The result was a minor revelation. Latter-day Saints clearly were not simply a bunch of zombies but in fact were real people who were struggling with many of the same questions that in a different religious tradition had also baffled and challenged me. Perhaps by studying Mormons I could gain insight not simply into their past but into my own as well.

[p.118]The Mormon past came even more vividly alive as I began to work closely in printed and manuscript records, especially those in LDS church archives. What a fascinating cast of varied and interesting people I encountered. These were not the modern-day stereotype of dutiful, unquestioning, and unbelievable "saints" but real men and women who struggled in new and more creative ways to understand themselves, their faith, and their place in the world. Figures such as Joseph Smith and so many others became real to me as I read first hand of their personal efforts, triumphs, and failures. Any group which could attract such talent and dedication was surely worthy of deeper investigation. What a pity that the poorly informed writers of Sunday school manuals and approved histories were evidently ignorant of the vitality and richness of their own faith.

Nowhere was such blindness to their own history more pronounced than in Mormon treatments of polygamy, the primary topic I was investigating. The most common approach seemed to be to say as little as possible about the subject, as though it was something of which to be ashamed. Only when talking about how inexplicably nasty and hostile non-Mormons were to the Saints was polygamy brought up, and then almost exclusively as a religious revelation that had been introduced to test the faith of the Saints. But working with manuscript records, I became vividly aware of the importance that polygamy had for nineteenth-century Mormons—not simply as a test of faith but also as an integral part of a total way of life. Although I personally found polygamy distasteful, clearly many of the men and women who practiced it were fine people who did so sincerely and to the best of their ability. Simply to ignore a practice for which they had struggled and sacrificed so long seemed to be doing fundamental violence to the history of Mormonism as a whole. I wanted somehow to recapture that past and help both Mormons and non-Mormons to achieve a more constructive understanding of this remarkable Latter-day Saint effort to restructure relations between men and women.

Despite the great achievements of Mormon historical studies over the past two decades, many Latter-day Saints nevertheless have remained fearful of realistic writing about the Mormon past or attempts to deal seriously with controversial issues such as polygamy. The repeatedly expressed anxiety is that such an open and honest approach might not be "faith promoting," that it might tend to raise questions which would cause Latter-day Saints to be less loyal to their church. As a result of such fears, the last few years have seen an increasing drive from some factions of the church to restrict or even put a stop to serious historical studies of Mormonism. Leaders of the church are now calling publicly for their historians to write only sanitized, saccharine accounts, treatments which would best be characterized as "propaganda" by an objective observer. Never in the past decade has the outlook for the serious writing of Mormon history appeared so grim.

I am convinced that this restrictive tendency can only be counterproductive. The writing of misleading yet supposedly "positive" accounts of the Mormon past will be neither faith promoting nor good history. Of course it all depends on what kind of faith one is trying to promote. If one wishes to promote uninformed, unthinking acquiescence to the church as an institution that can do no wrong, then clearly the propagandistic approach is most suitable. But if one wishes to promote a mature faith tested by a responsible exercise of free agency, then such an approach can only be destructive and self-defeating. All too many Saints seem to be less concerned with promoting faith in Mormonism and more concerned with promoting faith in the naive writings that have appeared about Mormonism, even if those accounts can be clearly shown to be misleading or inaccurate. It is indeed sad that for some Saints the horror of having any doubt is so great that they do not see the even greater horror of having a faith so small that they are afraid ever to doubt or test it for fear the whole structure would crumble. Realistic faith, it seems to me, must grow out of confidence rather than fear and defensiveness.

One of the most frequently voiced fears is that serious historical writings tend to "secularize" Mormonism. This view is a red herring, in my opinion. For believing Mormons to write either an exclusively "religious" or an exclusively "secular" version of their history is for them to make a false dichotomy since Mormonism, more than most contemporary religions, has refused to accept a religious-secular dichotomy at all. Mormon theology unequivocally states that the spiritual dimension is comprised of a form of matter too and presumably must also be subject to some form of natural law, if only we could understand it. Joseph Smith asserted: "All spirit is matter, but it is more refined and pure, and can only be discerned by purer eyes." "Spirit is a substance that is material but that is more pure and elastic and refined matter than the body. . . . It existed before the body, can exist in the body, and will exist separate from the body when the body will be moldering in the dust."

Growing out of this assertion is the Mormon belief that when properly sealed under church authority, earthly relationships will literally continue and develop further in the afterlife and for all eternity. Death then is only a transition to a higher realm of reality which nevertheless involves a type of physical order even though we normally cannot comprehend that order because of our earthly limitations. (The analogy presented in Edwin Abbott's Flatland would be useful here.) Moreover, because this life and the afterlife are believed to be indissolubly linked, it also follows that in the last analysis all religious and secular activities on earth ideally should be inseparable. The extraordinary Mormon effort to set up Zion in the American west during the nineteenth century reflected this drive to integrate all reality into a unitary whole. In short Mormonism paradoxically is the most overtly materialistic of all major offshoots of the Christian tradition. Yet at the same time it also emphatically affirms the reality of the spiritual dimension of life. Mormons might thus be said to believe in a form of "spiritual materialism."

This explicitly materialistic orientation has some important logical consequences for Mormons studying their own history. Naive Saints, of course, will undoubtedly continue to look upon events of their past as having happened due to unaccountable divine fiat. More mature Saints, however, have the important option of investigating even the seemingly miraculous or inexplicable elements of their history to try to understand their naturalistic dynamics insofar as that is possible. Such investigation need not reduce the sense of awe, mystery, and power in Mormonism. Anyone who has ever read widely among the great writers in the natural and physical sciences such as Loren Eisley, Stephen Jay Gould, or Carl Sagan is surely aware that deeper understanding heightens rather than reduces our sensitivity to the ultimate wonder that is life. Similarly human history itself when understood deeply and fully is an ever-unfolding miracle. Not ignorance but knowledge is ultimately the most effective in promoting a rich and vital faith. As Mormons would say: "The glory of God is intelligence."

The writing of good history is also necessary if the Mormon church is to deal constructively with the challenges it faces. Since the end of World War II, Latter-day Saints have entered a new period of [p.121]crisis and transition brought about somewhat paradoxically by their very success in attracting new members. The seven-fold Mormon growth to over seven million members and the spread of that membership out of the intermountain west and into other parts of the United States and the world is already requiring significant institutional changes. The long-range intellectual changes will eventually be even more profound, however, probably greater than those which took place in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries. At that time Mormonism gave up polygamy and most of its political exclusivity in order to reach at least a working accommodation with American society as a whole. If Mormonism is successfully to reach out into the world in the latter part of the twentieth century, it must also eventually shed many of its parochialisms. As only one example, the remarkable Mormon success in Brazil, where limiting membership due to racial antecedents ultimately proved too complex to be practical, contributed significantly to eliminating the policy of excluding blacks of African descent from full participation in the church.

In this as in similar cases, historians and others may play a crucial role in articulating the need for change and providing evidence that may encourage and support leaders in making necessary changes. On the particular issue of race, the new policy itself may well have come about primarily because of the institutional demands of the church, but without the often unpopular writings of historians to prepare the way, elimination of this policy might have taken much longer than it did. In the future similar issues will undoubtedly arise. Historians and others both inside and outside the church will continue to be needed because of broader and more realistic perspectives they can provide on both past and present. As a non-Mormon historian, I shall watch with great interest as the Latter-day Saint movement continues to struggle to come to terms with itself and with the challenges of an ever-changing society. Much has already been accomplished in writing Mormon history, but much more remains to be done if Mormon historians are to help successfully in spanning the gap between the still insular confines of Mormonism and the larger world.


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Another post on the FR Religion mentioned the concept of the LDS Church's policy of "faith-promoting history" and it got me looking. I found this article and thought it worth sharing.

Mentioned in the article is the penchant for declaring historical truths that apologists find uncomfortable as "propaganda" - we've seen that repeatedly in this forum.

Another comment in the article that I assocciated with was about Mormon colleagues and wondering how they could possibly beieve the way they do.


1 posted on 04/07/2011 5:51:52 PM PDT by delacoert
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To: delacoert
Hmm. The link broke. I can still find it in Google's cache though.
2 posted on 04/07/2011 5:54:45 PM PDT by delacoert
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Just struggled through an audiobook of “Massacre at Mountain Meadows” and experienced the exact phenomenon mentioned in this article. I didn’t find out until afterwards that it was written by Mormons.


3 posted on 04/07/2011 5:57:20 PM PDT by Elvina (BHO is doubleplus ungood.)
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To: Scoutmaster; Paragon Defender; aimhigh; AmericanArchConservative; aMorePerfectUnion; ...

Ping to those in reference and others probably interested.


4 posted on 04/07/2011 6:02:24 PM PDT by delacoert
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You pinged PD? Heh heh. If he wasn’t zotted he would love to post his links al over this thread. lol


5 posted on 04/07/2011 6:06:18 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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“Massacre at Mountain Meadows”

Get a copy of MASSACRES OF THE MOUNTAINS by JR Dunn Jr.

You will get an iconoclast’s view of the Western Indian wars and Mormon wars you have never known of! Wonder why this info has been covered up for so many years!


6 posted on 04/07/2011 6:10:50 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name. See my home page, if you dare!)
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You pinged PD? Heh heh. If he wasn’t zotted he would love to post his links al over this thread. lol

The lds freeper outer darkness list grows & grows

7 posted on 04/07/2011 6:15:37 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Oops I forgot.

Actually I missed the sequence of events leading to PDs zotitude. Please provide me link if you don't mind.

8 posted on 04/07/2011 6:16:52 PM PDT by delacoert
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I will check that out. Thanks for the info!


9 posted on 04/07/2011 6:20:05 PM PDT by Elvina (BHO is doubleplus ungood.)
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To: delacoert
Sure. It happened in This Thread. He called other freepers Nazis in posts #99 and #104. He got the Zot from JR himself in post #106. :-)
10 posted on 04/07/2011 6:22:10 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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Fawn Brodie....her path-breaking biography "No Man Knows My History"

I read that many years ago. A non-Mormon friend of mine who worked in Salt Lake for a time loaned me a copy. It was sold in select book stores in Salt Lake in a plane brown wrapper and never displayed for sale.

11 posted on 04/07/2011 6:32:22 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Well, it was an unremarkable zotting - befitting an unremarkable FReeper. Thanks for the link.

12 posted on 04/07/2011 6:47:59 PM PDT by delacoert
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To: delacoert

the internet kicks the availability of non-filtered history wide open for mormons today. It becomes increasingly humorous to watch the professional, non-official mormon apologists tie themselves in knots (as well as contradict each other) to explain away mormon history.


13 posted on 04/07/2011 6:55:04 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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From the article: The growing respect for Mormon social history has not spread as yet, except in rare cases, to respect for Mormon beliefs. During the past two decades I have been at many informal non-Mormon gatherings in scholarly conferences at which the subject of Mormonism has arisen. Almost invariably at least one individual has turned to me and said something along the following lines: "One thing about them has always puzzled me. I have a valued Mormon colleague who seems to be an otherwise fine and intelligent person, but frankly it baffles me how any thinking individual could believe what he does. I just can't understand it." I can understand this sense of disbelief as well. After all this was my own initial reaction both to Mormons and to their history. Before I got to know Mormons better, they chiefly appeared to be hardworking, clean-cut, loyal, thrifty, brave, clean, reverent—and utterly boring. No group ever talked more about free will (or in Mormon parlance "free agency") yet in practice seemed to exercise free will less in important matters. I was vividly reminded of a cartoon that showed a large, overbearing woman talking with her neighbor while her small, shy husband dutifully sat on the couch, his hands meekly folded. The woman was saying: "Hubert has a will of iron; he just seldom gets a chance to use it." This for me was the epitome of Mormonism and why I found it basically uninteresting and even sometimes distasteful. Popular Mormon history merely reinforced this stereotype. Mormons throughout history, it seemed, had always been PARAGONS of virtue, dedicated to the faith 100 percent or more. They had never had any doubts or problems except how better to spread the "gospel" among non-Mormons...

"Paragons"....Hmmm...just where have I heard that word in association with Mormons??...seems so familiar...yet so far away....Hmm...Who can help me out...It's seems right on the tip of my tongue.

Oh, yeah! Paragons of virtue...like the Mormon "Paragonian" who compared Freepers to Nazis & got zotted unto outer darkness. Why, how "virtuous!"

14 posted on 04/07/2011 8:02:01 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Godzilla

X


15 posted on 04/07/2011 8:04:49 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: delacoert; All
Mentioned in the article is the penchant for declaring historical truths that apologists find uncomfortable as "propaganda" - we've seen that repeatedly in this forum.

Exactly.

What's so ironic is the zotted-unto-outer darkness one would use "propaganda" as his fave slime word.

Yet, the author of this article points out how Mormon leaders are prone to practicing propaganda: Leaders of the church are now calling publicly for their historians to write only sanitized, saccharine accounts, treatments which would best be characterized as

"propaganda"

by an objective observer. Never in the past decade has the outlook for the serious writing of Mormon history appeared so grim. I am convinced that this restrictive tendency can only be counterproductive. The writing of misleading yet supposedly "positive" accounts of the Mormon past will be neither faith promoting nor good history. Of course it all depends on what kind of faith one is trying to promote. If one wishes to promote uninformed, unthinking acquiescence to the church as an institution that can do no wrong, then clearly the

propagandistic

approach is most suitable.

16 posted on 04/07/2011 8:10:22 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: delacoert; All
From the article: Even without any knowledge of what had actually gone on, I was certain that the official [Lds] version could not be the full story. Surely there must be more to Mormon history than such naive accounts indicated if their church had been able to achieve the remarkable degree of success that it had...Nowhere was such blindness to their own history more pronounced than in Mormon treatments of polygamy, the primary topic I was investigating. The most common approach seemed to be to say as little as possible about the subject, as though it was something of which to be ashamed. Only when talking about how inexplicably nasty and hostile non-Mormons were to the Saints was polygamy brought up, and then almost exclusively as a religious revelation that had been introduced to test the faith of the Saints...Despite the great achievements of Mormon historical studies over the past two decades, many Latter-day Saints nevertheless have remained

fearful

of realistic writing about the Mormon past or attempts to deal seriously with controversial issues such as polygamy. The repeatedly expressed anxiety is that such an open and honest approach might not be "faith promoting," that it might tend to raise questions which would cause Latter-day Saints to be less loyal to their church. As a result of such

fears,

the last few years have seen an increasing drive from some factions of the church to restrict or even put a stop to serious historical studies of Mormonism. Leaders of the church are now calling publicly for their historians to write only sanitized, saccharine accounts, treatments which would best be characterized as "propaganda" by an objective observer. Never in the past decade has the outlook for the serious writing of Mormon history appeared so grim. I am convinced that this restrictive tendency can only be counterproductive. The writing of misleading yet supposedly "positive" accounts of the Mormon past will be neither faith promoting nor good history. Of course it all depends on what kind of faith one is trying to promote. If one wishes to promote uninformed, unthinking acquiescence to the church as an institution that can do no wrong, then clearly the propagandistic approach is most suitable. But if one wishes to promote a mature faith tested by a responsible exercise of free agency, then such an approach can only be destructive and self-defeating. All too many Saints seem to be less concerned with promoting faith in Mormonism and more concerned with promoting faith in the naive writings that have appeared about Mormonism, even if those accounts can be clearly shown to be misleading or inaccurate. It is indeed sad that for some Saints the horror of having any doubt is so great that they do not see the even greater horror of having a faith so small that they are

afraid

ever to doubt or test it for

fear

the whole structure would crumble. Realistic faith, it seems to me, must grow out of confidence rather than

fear

and defensiveness.

What's interesting is that one of the top hierarchical Mormons -- one of the top three -- Boyd Packer -- addressed a bit of this in his General Conference message last weekend. In talking about some Mormons, Packer said:

"...some take offense at incidents

in the HISTORY of the church

or its leaders and are unable to get past the mistakes of others...they fall into inactivity."

That's the actual quote from his message. The Mormon church paraphrased it as:
Many members have been offended by some aspect of the Church and have fallen into inactivity. President Boyd K. Packer: Guided by the Holy Spirit -- but you can see the actual quote where Packer ties it into how the revelation of Mormon history has been leading to some Mormons falling away from the church here: Packer you tube

The REAL history of the Mormon church is an enemy to the Church...hence the fear that this author mentions about it from Mormons.

The big bogeyman of Mormonism is its own history!!!

(Too many skeletons reside there for comfort)

17 posted on 04/07/2011 8:27:31 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

You pinged PD?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0yXqU-w9U0&feature=related


18 posted on 04/07/2011 8:32:25 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian
"Paragons"....Hmmm...just where have I heard that word in association with Mormons??...


19 posted on 04/07/2011 8:34:18 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian
Leaders of the church are now calling publicly for their historians to write only sanitized, saccharine accounts, treatments which would best be characterized as "propaganda" by an objective observer. Never in the past decade has the outlook for the serious writing of Mormon history appeared so grim. I am convinced that this restrictive tendency can only be counterproductive. The writing of misleading yet supposedly "positive" accounts of the Mormon past will be neither faith promoting nor good history. Of course it all depends on what kind of faith one is trying to promote. If one wishes to promote uninformed, unthinking acquiescence to the church as an institution that can do no wrong, then clearly the propagandistic approach is most suitable.


 


 
Eerily familiar...
 
 

Party ownership of the print media
made it easy to manipulate public opinion,
and the film and radio carried the process further.


 



16. Ministry Of Truth

.......

The Ministry of Truth, Winston's place of work, contained, it was said, three thousand rooms above ground level, and corresponding ramifications below.

The Ministry of Truth concerned itself with Lies. Party ownership of the print media made it easy to manipulate public opinion, and the film and radio carried the process further.

The primary job of the Ministry of Truth was to supply the citizens of Oceania with newspapers, films, textbooks, telescreen programmes, plays, novels - with every conceivable kind of information, instruction, or entertainment, from a statue to a slogan, from a lyric poem to a biological treatise, and from a child's spelling-book to a Newspeak dictionary.

Winston worked in the RECORDS DEPARTMENT (a single branch of the Ministry of Truth) editing and writing for The Times. He dictated into a machine called a speakwrite. Winston would receive articles or news-items which for one reason or another it was thought necessary to alter, or, in Newspeak, rectify. If, for example, the Ministry of Plenty forecast a surplus, and in reality the result was grossly less, Winston's job was to change previous versions so the old version would agree with the new one. This process of continuous alteration was applied not only to newspapers, but to books, periodicals, pamphlets, posters, leaflets, films, sound-tracks, cartoons, photographs - to every kind of literature or documentation which might conceivably hold any political or ideological significance.

When his day's work started, Winston pulled the speakwrite towards him, blew the dust from its mouthpiece, and put on his spectacles. He dialed 'back numbers' on the telescreen and called for the appropriate issues of The Times, which slid out of the pneumatic tube after only a few minutes' delay. The messages he had received referred to articles or news-items which for one reason or another it was thought necessary to rectify.

In the walls of the cubicle there were three orifices. To the right of the speakwrite, a small pneumatic tube for written messages; to the left, a larger one for newspapers; and on the side wall, within easy reach of Winston's arm, a large oblong slit protected by a wire grating. This last was for the disposal of waste paper. Similar slits existed in thousands or tens of thousands throughout the building, not only in every room but at short intervals in every corridor. For some reason they were nicknamed memory holes. When one knew that any document was due for destruction, or even when one saw a scrap of waste paper lying about, it was an automatic action to lift the flap of the nearest memory hole and drop it in, whereupon it would be whirled away on a current of warm air to the enormous furnaces which were hidden somewhere in the recesses of the building.

As soon as Winston had dealt with each of the messages, he clipped his speakwritten corrections to the appropriate copy of The Times and pushed them into the pneumatic tube. Then, with a movement which was as nearly as possible unconscious, he crumpled up the original message and any notes that he himself had made, and dropped them into the memory hole to be devoured by the flames.

What happened in the unseen labyrinth to which the tubes led, he did not know in detail, but he did know in general terms. As soon as all the corrections which happened to be necessary in any particular number of The Times had been assembled and collated, that number would be reprinted, the original copy destroyed, and the corrected copy placed on the files in its stead.

In the cubicle next to him the little woman with sandy hair toiled day in day out, simply at tracking down and deleting from the Press the names of people who had been vaporized and were therefore considered never to have existed. And this hall, with its fifty workers or thereabouts, was only one-sub-section, a single cell, as it were, in the huge complexity of the Records Department. Beyond, above, below, were other swarms of workers engaged in an unimaginable multitude of jobs.

There were huge printing-shops and their sub editors, their typography experts, and their elaborately equipped studios for the faking of photographs. There was the tele-programmes section with its engineers, its producers and its teams of actors specially chosen for their skill in imitating voices; clerks whose job was simply to draw up lists of books and periodicals which were due for recall; vast repositories where the corrected documents were stored; and the hidden furnaces where the original copies were destroyed.

And somewhere or other, quite anonymous, there were the directing brains who co-ordinated the whole effort and laid down the lines of policy which made it necessary that this fragment of the past should be preserved, that one falsified, and the other rubbed out of existence.

 
 


20 posted on 04/07/2011 8:35:51 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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