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I'm posting a chapter a day of The Great Heresies by Hilaire Belloc.

This is the fifth in a series of seven posts.

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2694610/posts

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1 posted on 03/29/2011 10:46:31 AM PDT by WPaCon
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To: NYer; Salvation

Ping!


2 posted on 03/29/2011 10:53:51 AM PDT by WPaCon (Obama: pansy progressive, mad Mohammedan, or totalitarian tyrant? Or all three?)
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Ping for later.


3 posted on 03/29/2011 11:01:50 AM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: WPaCon

Hurrah. The Albigensian’s were mass murdered. “It was worth it”. Protestants are heretics too. Should we mass murder them?


4 posted on 03/29/2011 11:13:13 AM PDT by spyone (ridiculum)
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The great losers of the 30 years wars in the 17th century were the calvinists. As a result much of the early settlement of the USA was done by Calvinists. Its not just that the English puritans were calvinists, so were the scottish presbyterians, the dutch german swedish swiss reformed churches as were the small settlements of french heugonauts. At the time of the American revolution most American were Calvinists. The American constitution was for the most part written by Madison and his friends. They were all Calvinists.

This Catholic writer has misunderstood the great heresies.

The Albigensians were arians. After 1848, most euorpean protestants embraced the arian heresy. As a result they all fell over and died. All the American mainline protestant churches have to some extent embraced the arian heresy. They too are slowly dying. The Catholic church is growing in America only because of emigration. In latin america the big growth churches are the evangelical and charismatic churches. The catholic church is in decline because variation of the social gospel preached is rooted in the Arian heresy.


5 posted on 03/29/2011 11:21:28 AM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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"Thou shalt not kill". Another commandment that was grossly and by intent, ignored.

In point. Wycliffe and a host of others, within the religious hierarchy of the day, who wanted to translate the Bible into English, so it could be read by the common folk, were strangled first and then burned at the stake for their 'crimes', of heresy. Translating the Bible into English was considered heresy. Ha. I wonder how Jesus considers that as part of His church?

7 posted on 03/29/2011 11:32:58 AM PDT by BigFinn (The real King is coming and He isn't riding a donkey this time.)
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In summary, a form of genocide was carried out by the Catholic church because:

1. The Albigensians were exercising free thought contrary to that of the Catholic Church;

2. Certain nobles had designs on earthly property of the church;

3. The Catholic Church had the temporal power to do so.

Thank you for clearing that up, Belloc.


8 posted on 03/29/2011 11:37:56 AM PDT by Chaguito
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Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius.

Translation: “Kill them all. The Lord will know His own.”

Variation: “Kill them all. Let God sort them out.”

Supposed statement by Abbot Arnold Amaury before the massacre of Béziers during the Albigensian Crusade,

I read years ago that the Paulicians started when some Greek in Asia, who knew only the gospels got hold of some of Paul’s letters and went wild with them.

One of the first villages, in the Holy Land, destroyed in the First Crusade was not moslem but Paulician.

The Paulicians rejected marriage but same sex was OK, so the word Buggary described Bulgarian Paulicians.

If I am in error on this I’m sure someone will be along to straighten me out. That is what I like about FR.

As for Crusades, why go to Palestine and fight moslems when you can go a few miles and fight Cathars? Reward for the Crusade was the same!


10 posted on 03/29/2011 12:30:19 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Visit the TOMMY FRANKS MILITARY MUSEUM in HOBART, OK. I did, well worth it!)
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Catholic ping!


12 posted on 03/29/2011 1:31:03 PM PDT by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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Here are the previous threads:

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13 posted on 03/29/2011 1:33:42 PM PDT by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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More and more, I regret joining the Catholic church.


14 posted on 03/29/2011 1:40:23 PM PDT by Jack of all Trades (Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
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Chapter 4: The Albigensian Attack [The Great Heresies]
Chapter 3: The Great and Enduring Heresy of Mohammed [The Great Heresies]
Chapter 2: The Arian Heresy [The Great Heresies
Chapter 1: Scheme Of This Book [The Great Heresies]

Introduction: Heresy [The Great Heresies]
The Great Heresies
John Calvin’s Worst Heresy: That Christ Suffered in Hell
Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Succumbs to Heresy
The Bishop Discovers Heresy?
From Orthodox to Heresy: The Secularizing of Catholic Universities
Progressivism/Liberalism is Heresy [Excellent read & reference]
Is heresy better than schism? [Ecumenical]
Modernism: The Modernist Heresy
THE GREAT HERESIES-THE MODERN PHASE

The Protestant Heresy
The Gospel According to Mary Magdalene
Americanism, Then and Now: Our Pet Heresy (encyclical of Pope Leo XIII)
Heresies then and now: ancient Christian heresies practiced in modern times
The Plain Truth About The Baptist Bride Heresy
Balthasar, Hell, and Heresy: An Exchange (is it compatable with the Catholic faith?)
Know Your Heresies
The Rev. John Piper: an interesting look at "heresy vs. schism"
Pietism as an Ecclesiological Heresy
Heresy
Arian Heresy Still Tempts, Says Cardinal Bertone (Mentions Pelagianism As Well)

Catholic Discussion] Church group stays faithful (to heresy!)
An overview of modern anti-Trinitarian heresies
Where heresy and dissent abound [Minnesota]
Gnostic Gospels - the heresy entitled "Gnosticism."
Christian mavericks find affirmation in ancient heresies
The So-Called ‘Gospel’ of Judas: Unmasking an Ancient Heresy
Benedict XVI Heresies and Errors
Donatism (Know your heresies)
The Heresy of Mohammed (Chapter 4, The Great Heresies)
Father & Son Catholic Writers Tag-Team Old & New Heresies

24 posted on 03/29/2011 3:36:09 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Everything quoted on this thread regarding the Cathars is from the spew of hate from Irenius of Lyons. Total bull, and anti-historical. If you ask 98% of Catholics their view on the nature of Jesus, they will all turn out to be Arians and therefore heretics. And yet, they can read this drivel article from a guy who was considered a quack in 1900, and happily agree it was a good thing the Albigensian’s were exterminated. What a disgrace. What bufoons.


68 posted on 04/01/2011 11:24:37 PM PDT by spyone (ridiculum)
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