Posted on 03/29/2011 10:46:27 AM PDT by WPaCon
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Hurrah. The Albigensian’s were mass murdered. “It was worth it”. Protestants are heretics too. Should we mass murder them?
The great losers of the 30 years wars in the 17th century were the calvinists. As a result much of the early settlement of the USA was done by Calvinists. Its not just that the English puritans were calvinists, so were the scottish presbyterians, the dutch german swedish swiss reformed churches as were the small settlements of french heugonauts. At the time of the American revolution most American were Calvinists. The American constitution was for the most part written by Madison and his friends. They were all Calvinists.
This Catholic writer has misunderstood the great heresies.
The Albigensians were arians. After 1848, most euorpean protestants embraced the arian heresy. As a result they all fell over and died. All the American mainline protestant churches have to some extent embraced the arian heresy. They too are slowly dying. The Catholic church is growing in America only because of emigration. In latin america the big growth churches are the evangelical and charismatic churches. The catholic church is in decline because variation of the social gospel preached is rooted in the Arian heresy.
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In point. Wycliffe and a host of others, within the religious hierarchy of the day, who wanted to translate the Bible into English, so it could be read by the common folk, were strangled first and then burned at the stake for their 'crimes', of heresy. Translating the Bible into English was considered heresy. Ha. I wonder how Jesus considers that as part of His church?
In summary, a form of genocide was carried out by the Catholic church because:
1. The Albigensians were exercising free thought contrary to that of the Catholic Church;
2. Certain nobles had designs on earthly property of the church;
3. The Catholic Church had the temporal power to do so.
Thank you for clearing that up, Belloc.
It only took 4 entries for the hate to come out?
Aren’t we fighting and killing today to support a Muslim heresy against its orthodoxy?
War is hell. Go hate on your own thread.
Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius.
Translation: “Kill them all. The Lord will know His own.”
Variation: “Kill them all. Let God sort them out.”
Supposed statement by Abbot Arnold Amaury before the massacre of Béziers during the Albigensian Crusade,
I read years ago that the Paulicians started when some Greek in Asia, who knew only the gospels got hold of some of Paul’s letters and went wild with them.
One of the first villages, in the Holy Land, destroyed in the First Crusade was not moslem but Paulician.
The Paulicians rejected marriage but same sex was OK, so the word Buggary described Bulgarian Paulicians.
If I am in error on this I’m sure someone will be along to straighten me out. That is what I like about FR.
As for Crusades, why go to Palestine and fight moslems when you can go a few miles and fight Cathars? Reward for the Crusade was the same!
but the one unforgivable sin was reconciliation with the Catholic Church. There again the Albigensians were true to type. All heresies make that their chief point.
That's the real issue according to the post, and history...All heretics refuse to bow down to their pope...And of course the things you added would be a non issue if these tortured folks would have fallen down to the pope since the church (in it's mind) controlled and owned everything...
When it comes to that God forsaken religion of Rome, I count it a privilege to be called a heretic...
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More and more, I regret joining the Catholic church.
Thanks, I’m just realizing now that hotmail is the reason that my links have not been clickable when I’ve been posting this series.
Can you expound on this? Perhaps one of us can address the issue.
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It sounds like you condone the errors of the Albigensians.
Could you explain their great heresies. This article is very confusing. Is it just because they didn’t submit to the church govt in Rome? If so, then- YAWN
Yes, it seems like the shortcoming of this chapter is that it focuses on the EVENTS of the Albigensians, not on their beliefs. In short, they were Gnostic.
“It only took 4 entries for the hate to come out?”
Denouncing murder in the name of Christ is hate?
“Aren’t we fighting and killing today to support a Muslim heresy against its orthodoxy?”
What church is waging this war or giving their stamp of approval to it?
“War is hell. Go hate on your own thread.”
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