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Victims' group accuses Catholic church of sending problem priests to military
The Baltimore Sun ^ | March 24, 2011 | Tricia Bishop

Posted on 03/28/2011 4:24:33 AM PDT by Gamecock

Advocates for victims of clergy abuse called Thursday for an investigation into its allegations that the Roman Catholic church purposely funneled problem priests into the chaplain corps of the U.S. military.

....members of the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests called for congressional hearings to determine "how frequently and why Catholic officials dumped predator priests on military bases."

And they distributed documents that they said showed that Archbishop Edwin F. O'Brien ignored sexual misconduct by chaplains when he headed the U.S. Archdiocese for the Military Services.

(Excerpt) Read more at articles.baltimoresun.com ...


TOPICS: General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: edwinfobrien; priest; rape
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To: Notwithstanding

81 posted on 03/28/2011 12:18:27 PM PDT by Notwithstanding
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Are there good men who are RC chaplains?

Probably.

Probably??? How about this medal of honor winner, Maj. Charles J. Watters,

While the priest died on the battlefield, his legend did not. It spread from Southeast Asia all the way to the Pentagon. Two years after his death, Father Charlie, as he was known to troops, was awarded the Medal of Honor, one of only seven chaplains ever to receive the nation's highest military honor.

Or how about the Story of the Four Immortal Chaplains, one of which was Catholic.

82 posted on 03/28/2011 12:20:33 PM PDT by mware
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83 posted on 03/28/2011 12:20:44 PM PDT by Notwithstanding
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84 posted on 03/28/2011 12:22:03 PM PDT by Notwithstanding
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Really? You’d just have the Catholic church announce the world, “all it takes to ruin any given priest you want is one unsubstantiated, unofficial, anonymous complaint.” Why, in no time, you’d have no-one willing to be a priest.

Oh wait, that’s your objective, isn’t it? You’re not trying to help Catholicism, you’re trying to destroy it.

>> You keep them away from women and children. <<

Like — I dunno — assign them to the military diocese?

YOu and I both know that is SNAP had any instances of someone being reassigned to a military base due to a sex-related offense THEN committing a crime, they’d’ve leapt at it. Because we both have seen their Philadelphia report and we both know that SNAP will clamor after the weakest of cases. But they didn’t cite any. Instead, they publish a list of every priest who has been accused of anything before or after being sent to the military diocese, with no hint that any of them were accused, assigned to the diocese, and then accused again.

>> It’s a well-known policy,” said SNAP member Jim Moran <<

Really, it’s so well known, you can’t substantiate your allegations at all, Jim?

>> O’Brien said in the remarks that “two such cases have come forward where active duty priest chaplains have been found guilty of engaging in immoral acts with minors.” But an Associated Press report from 2002 had already revealed that at least eight military priests were accused in civil or criminal court cases of sexual misconduct since 1977... Dingle sees the contradiction in figures as a cover-up. <<

Really, Dingle? Since you have the report and you published the list of cases, surely you can point out at least three cases which contradict the bishop, can’t you? No? Or is this a case of ignoring adjectives and qualifiers O’Brien plainly inserted to keep the scope of his statement down to relevant charges. Of course it is, Dingle, because you want more money, which is why you took your case to the news media before taking it to the courts.


85 posted on 03/28/2011 12:25:58 PM PDT by dangus
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86 posted on 03/28/2011 12:32:23 PM PDT by Notwithstanding
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87 posted on 03/28/2011 12:33:52 PM PDT by Notwithstanding
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88 posted on 03/28/2011 12:35:17 PM PDT by Notwithstanding
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89 posted on 03/28/2011 12:35:42 PM PDT by Notwithstanding
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90 posted on 03/28/2011 12:36:08 PM PDT by Notwithstanding
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91 posted on 03/28/2011 12:36:52 PM PDT by Notwithstanding
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Father Emil Kapaun served as a chaplain in World War II and the Korean war, where he died a prisoner of war in 1951.
92 posted on 03/28/2011 12:43:52 PM PDT by Carpe Cerevisi
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93 posted on 03/28/2011 12:47:19 PM PDT by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: dangus
Yeah, everyone is out of step but Rome.

that’s your objective, isn’t it? You’re not trying to help Catholicism, you’re trying to destroy it.

That is mind-reading and against the rules of the Religion Forum.

I would like nothing better than to see the Roman Catholic church reformed to bring it into alignment with God's word.

That happend 500 years ago. God willing, it will continue for another 500 years...until Rome repents of its idolatry and kneels to none but Christ.

94 posted on 03/28/2011 12:49:43 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: chatham
I knew Fr. Doyle early in his military career. He was the Catholic chaplain at Tinker AFB during the early 1980’s. I have been told by a still-serving priest that not only the military hierarchy but also the church leadership intensely hated Fr. Doyle.
95 posted on 03/28/2011 2:13:52 PM PDT by Don Carlos (Don't tell mom I'm running for congress. She thinks I still play piano in a whorehouse.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

No, actually it’s NOT mind-reading. You’ve stated its your desire on several threads.


96 posted on 03/28/2011 2:49:26 PM PDT by dangus
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To: lastchance

Do you have a link? It’s amazing that not ONE of the incidences you post involve being sent to the military diocese AFTER abuse was alleged. IOW, the support the “victims’ group” provided is inconcistent with their assertions.


97 posted on 03/28/2011 2:54:24 PM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

If you go to the website of “Bishop Accountablity” and search for military you will find the article and the profiles I mention.


98 posted on 03/28/2011 4:08:04 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: dangus
"that’s your objective, isn’t it? You’re not trying to help Catholicism, you’re trying to destroy it.

Please show me any post where I've said I'm "trying to destroy" the Roman Catholic church.

And because you will not find any such comment by me, your post is against the rules because it is mind-reading.

99 posted on 03/28/2011 5:12:13 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Notwithstanding; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; metmom; RnMomof7
We KNOW that at least four of these Catholic chaplains were awarded the Medal of Honor.

What a shame their legacy has been tarnished by the very church they served.

100 posted on 03/28/2011 6:24:50 PM PDT by Gamecock (I didn't reach the top of the food chain just to become a vegetarian.)
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