Gonzaga VP invokes "Ex Corde Ecclesiae" to justify production of "The Vagina Monologues" [Catholic]

Insight Scoop ^ | March 26, 2011 | Carl Olson

[Jvette]

This travesty of a “play” does not celebrate women, it does what the feminists claimed they wanted to end, objectifies them and reduces them to nothing more than their sexuality.

It’s all about sex to them and the sexual revolution didn’t liberate women, it merely enslaved them to a different master.

[Mrs. Don-o]

I dug up this nearly 1-year-old post because the same thing is happening this year at (of course) Georgetown.

I've just written to the president of Georgetown, and I would actualy be quite pleased if you would do the same. He may not pay any attention, but your e-mail will be in your celestial file (and his) as evidence, for and against, On That Day.

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president@georgetown.edu

Dear Dr. DeGioia,

I certainly think you should stick to your principles and continue to have fthought-provoking performances like The Vagina Monologues presented on the Georgetown campus.

As such, you would be taking a courageous stand against the imposition of non-scholarly Catholic standards upon higher education. You would be helping each and every one of us in the Georgetown community to free ourselves from the limitations of “the mind of the Church.”

You have made great strides in demonstrating your commitment to a fully post-Christian and post-moral understanding of learning, scholarship and culture.

There is no reason for you to listen to the narrow views of people who resist the sponsorship of moral corruption. They are worried, no doubt, about your soul, and the soul of Georgetown. But quite needlessly.

Your soul--- together with the soul of Georgetown --- is progressing quite rapidly to where it needs to be.

Sincerely,

Iblish Ash-Shaytan
Class of 2015

[SuziQ]

"If, as Ex Corde Ecclesiae (‘From the Heart of the Church') states, ‘ . . . by its Catholic character, a University is made more capable of conducting an impartial search for truth, a search that is neither subordinated to nor conditioned by particular interest of any kind,' then faculty, staff and students at Gonzaga are called to attend to and reflect on their own assumptions and presuppositions, and to engage in discourse about experiences of sexual violence, controversial art, ideas and events with scholarly charity (Ex Corde Ecclesiae, Introduction, Section 7)."

If the college administration is going to 'go there', someone should publicly ask the administration if they would be as welcoming to a stage play that lauded a priest cultivating and manipulating a young man, in order to commit sexual abuse. After all, that is the subject of one of the 'monologues'; a young woman is seduced by a female coach, and yet the "Monologues" are lauded by feminists.

I guess outrage about sexual abuse is selective, and that point should be brought home forcefully to the Jebbies running the school. It might even make a few of them squirm, since the Jebbies have been harboring abusers for years, but since they are the only Catholics that the MSM likes, they've not been investigated in the same way the Catholic Bishops have.

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[GeronL]

How do these people call themselves “Christian”?

[nickcarraway]

Gonzaga, the subject of this article, is private and Catholic.

You are misinformed. Gonzaga is not a Catholic school. It is a Jesuit school.

[BlackElk]

Gonzaga MAY be private but it is hardly Catholic. See likewise: Notre Shame, Boston College, Georgetown, University of San FranSicko, Manhattanville, and a very wide selection of once Catholic colleges which have become secular humanist fortresses instead. Google Land o' Lakes Conference of 1967 at which each and every Catholic college and university with six exceptions declared themselves no longer Catholic in a vain pursuit of academic (read atheist and Marxist) "freedom."

St. John's University in NYC refused to join in the Land o' Lakes Declaration. Whether it has subsequently caved in I do not know. Steubenville in Ohio is a Catholic College and means it. Belmont Abbey in North Carolina likewise. St. Thomas More in New Hampshire, St. Thomas More in Fort Worth, Christendom in Virginia, Magdeline in New Hampshire, St. Thomas Aquinas in California, Ave Maria in Florida and a new college in Wyoming are about all that is left.

It is worse for actual Catholics to send their children to schools posing as "Catholic" but chock full of heretical and secular humanist teachers and administrators with bristling leftist agendas than to send their children to such schools as Bob Jones University, Oral Roberts, Regent, Liberty Baptist and other firmly Christian schools (though each differs with Catholicism theologically while retaining the morality, the scholarship and the moral teachings of the best of Western Civilization). What the good Catholic and good Christian colleges and universities may lack in, say, football dominance, compared to a Notre Shame, they make up for by affording an intellectual pathway to eternal salvation which is even more important than football (or Gonzaga's basketball program) to many of us.

The renegade former "Catholic" schools are guilty of grand theft academic by taking the money contributed by many generations of actually Catholic people as invested in buildings, libraries, laboratories and what not and then perverting the teaching at their schools. Today's Gonzaga is not Bing Crosby's Gonzaga. If someone more committed as a Catholic than Bishop Blaise Cupich were Bishop of Spokane, then Gonzaga would be rightfully deprived of using the name "Catholic" as a description of itself which violates truth in advertising as well.

[Dr. Sivana]

What "types of schools" do you suggest? Bob Jones perhaps?

That kind of argument is a logical fallacy called a straw-man. Instead of rebutting the poster's argument, you make up a phony argument with an asssumed result and argue against that.

This TVM piece has no issue being shown anywhere. Speaking for myself, as a Catholic, I attended the University of Chicago, a well-respected, secular university that had an undeserved reputation of being conservative because of some Austrian school economists and Alan Bloom. In fact, that atmosphere was somewhat schizophrenic. The campus area was zoned dry, so you could not have a beer with your Eduardo's pizza, and yet the Lascivious Costume Ball (complete with nudists in Ida Noyes Hall, Ida is STILL spinning in her grave) and GALA organization provided unhealthy social outlets, perhaps to compensate for the lack of healthy ones. I transferred to Christendom College, and do not regret it.

BlackElk made some suggestions of schools for Catholics, and there are places like Hillsdale College for those who are not seeking a school affiliated with a religion.

We already subsidize nearly all colleges (Hillsdale, Christendom, Grove City being notable exceptions) through our taxes. Why should we further endorse programs like TVM at Gonzaga with student activities fees, and legitimize them with our attendance at said school?

We look at these schools, and find that 90% of the faculty and 65%-85% of the students are Obama supporters (estimates, find better numbers and see how far off I am). I remember a public policy class that I took where the entire class was asked if we prayed to God for something specific to help us (e.g. praying for peace, or an end to world hunger would not be included). I alone raised my hand. I still don't know why the question was pertinent to the subject matter.

Is it possible that 95% of the colleges have been systematically turned into something that tends to undermine the western social order? It must be. It has happened.

Is it possible to infiltrate these places and undo some of the damage they have caused? For some, maybe. It is more likely if you can live off-campus from beginning to end, something not allowed at the most elite universities for freshmen.

But don't pretend that it hasn't happened, and don't pretend that filth like TVM is acceptable fare at any civilized venue, and that its toleration as a campus sponsored event does not mean that the institution hasn't joined the fight to tear the fabric of classic western civilization. I don't care if its straight Marxism, the Gramschi or Fabian variants, or Nietzschism, these are revolutionaries. We are their target.

[Salvation]

And there are many good Jesuits — just like there are many good Catholics.

[Salvation]

BTW — they have a new beautiful chapel kitty-corner from the campus. I was able to visit it a couple of years ago at a Serra Club conference.

The chapel was very orthodox and very Catholic in architecture.

[BlackElk]

Dear Salvation:

With all due respect, Gonzaga, in 2000, hosted a campaign appearance by AlGore. On that occasion, pro-life protestors were rounded up in cattle pens and kept far, far away from the TV cameras. That fiasco is also part of Gonzaga's history. I am glad that Gonzaga has a very orthodox and very Catholic architectural chapel kitty corner from its campus. It is, no doubt, very difficult to find much in the way of actually Catholic Jebbies to say Mass there, however.

Nick Carraway's criticism of the Jesuits is on target. Once, decades ago, the Jesuits prided themselves on being "God's Marines." They were still that when I graduated a Jesuit prep school in the mid-1960's. In later years, they have become a dwindling club of leftist and scarcely Catholic dissenters.

As a matter of fairness, today brought good news from Wisconsin where the Jesuit provincial superior has suspended one William Brennan, SJ (a 92-year-old dissenter) for concelebrating a "mass" with some feminist nutcase posing as a priestess and also ordered Brennan not to say Mass, not to perform any priestly functions whatsoever, and to refrain from contact with press and media. There may be hope yet, however faint. Of course, if Brennan did not run straight to the execrable National "Catholic" Reporter to whine, moan and groan about those awful reactionaries who fail to appreciate his devotion to his long dead mom by way of supporting womenpriests, I would not have known. Brennan's real profession is violation of his vows. If he could find his way to San FranSicko, he would probably be reinstated by Fr. Privet, SJ, the provincial superior there, and added to the University of San FranSicko faculty, perhaps in the Department of Defiance of Vatican Authority.

Salvation, I appreciate all of your efforts here but Gonzaga is beyond the pale, ought to be stripped of any claim to be Catholic, and suppressed as a Catholic institution gone bad.

[GeronL]

I’m not Catholic but I will be the first to say that those who don’t support the policies of the CC should not claim to be Catholics.

[Mrs. Don-o]

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