I'm Hungry...
Posted on 03/26/2011 12:59:03 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg
And if Newbie were a pejorative, we'd all be in trouble.
Good night all. I’m outa here.
I suggest we leave this thread, not feed the sickness any longer - let it die of its own disease.
May God bless.
Indeed, if he's guilty.
If you have a point, it’s incoherent.
Petronski hasn’t posted in many months. His last posts were pretty inflammatory.
For some reason, he’s stopped posting.
Or so we assume.
Did you read the link?
I'm Hungry...
You can't pick and choose.
How about this one? Does it count as "guilt" if priests quit and apologize for their wrong-doing?
"Ireland’s clergy sex abuse scandal erupted last year after two government-ordered reports documented decades of clergy child abuse and a church cover up of the abuse. Four Irish bishops said they’ll resign for not reporting the abuse...
The article goes on to say this about Law...
"Cardinal Law came to personify the clergy abuse crisis. He was the first member of the Catholic hierarchy shown to have actively covered up clergy abuse. Immediately after the Boston Globe broke the abuse story in 2002, Law refused to step down. But 11 months later, when priests’ records were released by court order showing that Law took elaborate steps to cover for abusers, he stepped down."
I guess those four priests resigned and Cardinal Law stepped down because they wanted to spend more time with their families.
Oh, wait, they don't have any family, do they?
Just lots of young children who were profoundly damaged while in their care.
Strike three.
Dr. Ekleburg and Celtic Cross:
A few enlightening excertps...or precursers of contemporary abominations:
“The Council of Elvira was not the only source of early legislative attempts to curb the sexual misdeeds of the clergy......”
“The earliest recorded church legislation is from the council of Elvira (Spain, 306 AD). Half of the canons passed dealt with sexual behavior of one kind or another and included penalties assessed for clerics who committed adultery or fornication. Though it did not make specific mention of homosexual activities by the clergy, this early Council reflected the church’s official attitude toward same-sex relationships: men who had sex with young boys were deprived of communion even on their deathbed.”
“The most dramatic and explicit condemnation of forbidden clergy sexual activity was the Book of Gomorrah of St. Peter Damian, completed in 1051. The author had been a Benedictine monk and was appointed archbishop and later cardinal by the reigning pope. Peter Damian was also a dedicated Church reformer who lived in a society wherein clerical decadence was not only widespread and publicly known, but generally accepted as the norm. His work, the circumstances that prompted it and the reaction of the reigning pope (Leo IX) are a prophetic reflection of the contemporary situation. He begins by singling out superiors who, prompted by excessive and misplaced piety, fail to exclude sodomites (chap. 2). He asserts that those given to “unclean acts” not be ordained or, if they are already ordained, be dismissed from Holy Orders (chap. 3). He holds special contempt for those who defile men or boys who come to them for confession (chap. 6). Likewise he condemns clerics who administer the sacrament of penance (confession) to their victims (chap. 7). The author also provides a refutation of the canonical sources used by offending clerics to justify their proclivities (chap. 11, 12). He also provides chapters which assess the damage done to the church by offending clerics (chap. 19, 20, 21). His final chapter is an appeal to the reigning pope (Leo IX) to take action. “
“The pope’s response, included in the cited edition, is an example of inaction similar to that of contemporary church leaders. Pope Leo praised Peter Damian and verified the truth of his findings and recommendations. Yet he considerably softened the reformer’s urging that decisive action be taken to root offenders from the ranks of the clergy. The pope decided to exclude only those who had offended repeatedly and over a long period of time. Although Peter Damian had paid significant attention to the impact of the offending clerics on their victims, the Pope made no mention of this but focused only on the sinfulness of the clerics and their need to repent. “
More here:
http://www.crusadeagainstclergyabuse.com/htm/AShortHistory.htm
I've seen the Admin Mod rebuke posters for throwing it about.
Once again, I'm Hungry...
Ping to post 310.
Sexual immorality appears to be part and parcel of Catholic priesthood.
Going back to 307 AD.
1700 years of abuse by the Catholic clergy.
And Catholics attack us for condemning it.
It just boggles the mind.
Regardless of your opinion, it is clear that you made posts that were 'personal' and 'about' another poster.
Here's a couple more.
Thursday, February 03, 2011 1:53:24 AM · 345 of 1,180 Dr. Eckleburg to Natural Law You began this foolishness. You can end it any time. So how long have you been a florist?
Once again, you are making it 'about' another poster in a demeaning way.
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Wednesday, February 02, 2011 10:21:02 PM · 3,002 of 3,390 Dr. Eckleburg to MarkBsnr You really don't know, do you? lol. Mark, you write with great authority.
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All emphasis mine. Goodnight.
But today even the individual denomination of "Evangelical" Protestant outnumbers Roman Catholics at 26%.
Evangelical Protestants outnumber Catholics by 26.3 percent (59 million) to 24 percent (54 million) of the population, according to the U.S. Religious Landscape Survey, a massive 45-question poll conducted last summer of more than 35,000 American adults. “There is no question that the demographic balance has shifted in past few decades toward evangelical churches,” said Greg Smith, a research fellow at the Pew Forum. “They are now the mainline of American Protestantism.” "Evangelical Christianity has become the largest religious tradition in this country, supplanting Roman Catholicism, which is slowly bleeding members, according to a survey released yesterday by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life.
What did you and Petronski "spar" over?
I’m not amused and I’m not Alex Murphy.
Nice. This from someone whose handle is "muawiyah."
Sure, if you count all the denominations as one body. Do you really want to be lumped in with the Unitarians?
Over how much pity we should have for anti-Catholic bigots.
He explains it on his homepage.
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