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Catholic Sex Abuse Hearing Descends Into `Shut Up' Order and Charge of 'Abomination'
Courthouse News Service ^ | March 25, 2011 | Reuben Kramer

Posted on 03/26/2011 12:59:03 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg

At an intensely combative and vitriolic hearing Friday afternoon in a sex-abuse case that has shaken the Philadelphia Archdiocese to its core, a state court judge shocked one priest's defense attorney by disclosing that the government thinks he might be a witness as a former seminarian and could be disqualified from the case. The lawyer, who represents one of three current and former Roman Catholic priests charged with raping boys in their parish, fired back that prosecutors were being "anti-Catholic" and had uttered an "abomination."

Judge Renee Cardwell Hughes told defense attorney Richard DeSipio that she's received information that "might make you, in fact, a witness because of events that occurred while you were a seminarian."

The information "stems from the fact that you attended the seminary with a student who asserts he was abused," Hughes said, adding that DeSipio "may possess factual knowledge about abuse that occurred with that student."

She added that the substance of the claim that DiSipio witnessed something is still unclear. "I just don't know if it's true," Hughes said. "I really don't know if it's true."

Yelling and visibly upset, DeSipio demanded that the government, then and there, identify the source of the allegation. "Let them spill it out right now!" DeSipio demanded.

"How dare they send you a letter about that," DeSipio said, referring to the district attorney's office. "That's an abomination."

Prosecutors said only that part of DeSipio's seminary training overlapped with the tenure of a senior clergyman accused of endangering children by failing to protect them from priests with a known history of abuse.

Monsignor William Lynn, now pastor of St. Joseph Church in Downingtown, Pa., is reportedly the highest-ranking member of the Roman Catholic Church in the United States ever to be charged with child endangerment. Between 1984 and 1992, he served as dean of men at St. Charles Borromeo Seminary in Wynnewood, Pa., according to his biography on St. Joseph's website. As the secretary for clergy for the Archdiocese of Philadelphia from 1992 to 2004, Lynn acted as personnel director for priests. He is accused of ignoring reports of abuse, covering up for them and putting children in danger.

"They are anti-Catholic. I'll say it," DiSipio fumed. "[The district attorney is] attacking me as a Catholic!"

The judge rejected DiSipio's claim. "Attack you? You attacked me! You don't even know me!" Hughes said, referring to a prior argument over the necessity of a preliminary hearing, another hotly contested issue Friday afternoon.

"Mr. DeSipio, I suggest you shut up," Hughes said. "People are coming from out of the woodwork [to provide information to the commonwealth.]"

If the government can prove the allegation is credible in 30 days, DeSipio will be disqualified as the archdiocese's attorney.

"You can change lawyers now, you can change lawyers in 30," the judge warned DeSipio's client, the Rev. James Brennan. "[But] there are some conflicts that are not waivable."

DeSipio argued that the 30-day investigation was "really unfair to Father Brennan," given his mounting legal costs.

Judge Hughes was livid that DeSipio spoke up again. "If you open your mouth one more time I am going to have the sheriff take you out of here," she told DeSipio.

As DeSipio continued to argue, Hughes said she might have him "locked up and held in contempt." Instead she issued a gag order, responding to what she observed as attorneys having "gone to the airways to advocate."

"No more interviews with anyone," the judge ruled.

"Does that include the DA going on Chris Matthews' 'Hardball' and going to the New York Times," defense attorney Michael McGovern asked.

The judge responded affirmatively: "I don't want tweets. I don't want Facebook. I don't want IMs [instant messages]."

Hughes said the court will revisit the gag order on April 15, when defendants are to be arraigned. That date also marks the deadline for the DA to provide the defense with the first batch of discovery, she said.

All but one of the defense attorneys challenged the government's amendment to its case, which added a conspiracy charge that had not explicitly been requested of the grand jury.

"The issue here is that if the DA seeks to amend, it has to be subject to some sort of prima facie determination," the defense argued.

The judge found otherwise, ruling that the commonwealth established "good cause" in its pleadings and that "there is no constitutional right - federal or state - for a preliminary hearing."

It was "a technical error on the commonwealth not to charge conspiracy" originally, Hughes said. "Conspiracy is made," and the defendants will not be afforded a preliminary hearing, she ruled.

Hughes said there was abundant evidence to support the amendment.

"I'm the only person, besides the prosecutors, who has seen every stitch of evidence," she said.

Defense attorney McGovern argued that her admission was precisely the problem.

"Your Honor, this is patently unfair!" McGovern said. "You know the evidence. They know the evidence. I don't know what the evidence is! I haven't seen any!"

The attorney said proceeding to trial without a preliminary hearing was like saying, "Let's have a dart game in a dark room."

"What kind of country is this where we have this?" he shouted.

The judge yelled back, baring her teeth: "You sit down! Sit, sit, sit!"

DeSipio agreed with McGovern that their clients deserve a preliminary hearing, which could allow them to confront their accusers.

"There's no witness. I know that they [the prosecutors] don't like that he's in jail," DeSipio said. "This accuser says there was an erect penis in his buttocks."

"Was it in your buttocks, or was it in your anus," he asked rhetorically. "If that question wasn't asked [of the grand jury], and he didn't specify anus or butt cheeks, I have a right to ask that."

"What you can't do, and what I submit they're trying to do, is say just because we have a grand jury, we have good cause [to by-pass a preliminary hearing]," DeSipio said.

The judge also addressed a potential conflict of interest concerning Monsignor Lynn, who unlike the three current and former priests, faces child endangerment charges - not rape or sexual assault. Plans for the Archdiocese of Philadelphia to pay Lynn's legal costs present "a whole array of conflicts that I can't even imagine at this point in time," Hughes said.

"It's real simple," the judge said to Lynn, who was donning his clerical collar, "your master is the person that's putting bread on the table."

"It may be in your best interest to put forth a defense that attacks other people [or the church]," Hughes said.

She told Lynn he was putting himself in the position of receiving "advice from people who are being paid by people whose interests don't necessarily align with yours."

The stakes of this gamble could amount to "14 years of incarceration versus probation," she said.

Lynn, in a calm voice, declined. "Well, I trust these two men." he said, adding that the church hadn't placed any conditions on the payment of his legal costs.

Hughes was incredulous. "You are making a knowing, voluntary and intelligent decision to place yourself in conflict with your attorneys?" she asked.

"I am," Lynn responded, waiving his right to any future appeal based on the argument that his attorneys had a conflict of interest.

"Then we're moving forward," the judge said.

After arraignments and release of the first batch of discovery, which will include grand jury notes and testimony, on April 15, the government will begin putting together a second batch. The government said that batch would take longer to produce, as it will include roughly 10,000 pages of documentation, much of which will need to be redacted.

Hughes said the government must give the defense a specific timeline for the production of the second batch. "There has to be some finality," she said.

In January, a grand jury returned an indictment for rape and sexual assault against one current priest, one defrocked priest and one man who taught at a Catholic school. Monsignor Lynn, the third cleric who worked for the archdiocese as secretary of clergy, is accused of giving known abusers easy access to minors.


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To: buccaneer81

But you don’t have to be “at a disadvantage.”

The rules are simple enough for even children to understand them and abide by them.

Try harder.


281 posted on 03/26/2011 8:58:17 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

His account is active. And I saw his comments. He really smoked a certain Calvinist.


282 posted on 03/26/2011 8:58:38 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

The rules are not enforced evenly.


283 posted on 03/26/2011 8:59:37 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Of course, you post fully aware of what you can get away with, which is more than any Catholic ever could.


284 posted on 03/26/2011 9:00:09 PM PDT by Celtic Cross (Some minds are like cement; thoroughly mixed up and permanently set...)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

:)Thanks for your answer.


285 posted on 03/26/2011 9:01:17 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: buccaneer81

Yep I remember it well. Several times.

But when you live in an irrational world, some continue anew - hatless not withstanding...


286 posted on 03/26/2011 9:01:58 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: buccaneer81
We both know why/

Why your posts are being pulled and mine aren't?

It's not difficult to figure out. Discuss the issues and not each other. It's a very good rule and we all benefit by it.

287 posted on 03/26/2011 9:03:14 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Celtic Cross

Abiding by the rules is not “getting away with” anything.


288 posted on 03/26/2011 9:04:38 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: buccaneer81
We Catholics are at a disadvantage in this forum.

Yep, limiting to truthful statements with facts.

289 posted on 03/26/2011 9:05:25 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: buccaneer81

Why don’t you tell the Moderator that?


290 posted on 03/26/2011 9:05:32 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Would be nice to ping him if you mention his name.


291 posted on 03/26/2011 9:05:43 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: buccaneer81

Petronski’s final comments were not to me.

And anyone who actually searches for and reads his final comments knows that.


292 posted on 03/26/2011 9:06:48 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; All
Sunday, March 20, 2011 6:26:24 PM · 74 of 124 Dr. Eckleburg to WPaCon; buccaneer81; TSgt; Gamecock; metmom; RnMomof7 Also, on those threads which are most uncomfortable for RCs, we usually see a great deal of name-calling and rule-breaking by RCs who may want the thread pulled or locked. As I said earlier, Newbie, have at it.

Emphasis mine. Notice the raging hypocrasy.

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Sunday, March 20, 2011 5:18:23 PM · 53 of 124 Dr. Eckleburg to WPaCon See post 48, Newbie.

Emphasis mine. More name calling.

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unday, March 20, 2011 4:27:10 PM · 48 of 124 Dr. Eckleburg to WPaCon Are you under the impression your questions mean anything to me, Newbie?

Once again, my emphasis, her name-calling.

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Sunday, March 20, 2011 3:26:05 PM · 38 of 124 Dr. Eckleburg to oh8eleven He was posting like that on his "first" day on Free Republic. Kill the messenger.

Implication retread.

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Dr. Eckleburg to Cronos Say, didn't you write that "That's Christianity, That's Calvinism". REmember Calvinists are not all Protestants Let's see if you are capable of following this logic... I have a Ford Explorer. A Ford Explorer is a car. Are all cars Ford Explorers? Were you able to follow that?

Just plain insulting.

293 posted on 03/26/2011 9:07:01 PM PDT by Celtic Cross (Some minds are like cement; thoroughly mixed up and permanently set...)
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To: Celtic Cross; Dr. Eckleburg; WPaCon
Of course, you post fully aware of what you can get away with, which is more than any Catholic ever could.

it's because of A Little tEeny eXtreme Mindset Used aRound apParent High and mightY posters.

294 posted on 03/26/2011 9:07:10 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

http://www.freerepublic.com/~petronski/index?U=%2Ftag%2F%2A%2Findex


295 posted on 03/26/2011 9:09:23 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: fatima

I gave that up long ago after being left off numerous comments about me, as evidenced on this very thread.


296 posted on 03/26/2011 9:09:44 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: buccaneer81; Alex Murphy
it's because of A Little tEeny eXtreme Mindset Used aRound apParent High and mightY posters.

LOL.

Dream on.

297 posted on 03/26/2011 9:11:19 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: D-fendr

What’s your point?


298 posted on 03/26/2011 9:12:07 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Ok:)


299 posted on 03/26/2011 9:12:24 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

One obvious point, is you don’t even see the point.

And I’m joining the others in ignoring you.

May God bring you peace and healing.


300 posted on 03/26/2011 9:14:35 PM PDT by D-fendr
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