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To: RnMomof7

“The vast majority of Reformed folk will shout what is plainly taught, and be quiet when Scripture is quiet.”

The vast majority of ‘reformed folk’ on these religion threads shout that we are saved by grace thru election, and that God gives life to those he has chosen so they can then believe. That is not found in scripture, and it contradicts the plain and express teaching of scripture.

The majority of reformed folk on these threads identify themselves as “whatever Catholics are not” instead of “Wherever Jesus leads”. They practice negative identity, proclaiming what they are not instead of who they are. Your denominations split off 500 years ago. Stop wallowing in 1500 AD and share the Good News.

As you know, I’m a Baptist, and part of the Southern Baptist Convention. Baptists are farther from Roman Catholic theology than reformed folk. For example, we don’t believe in infant baptism, but baptize on profession of faith.

We believe in proclaiming the Gospel:

17And the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was given to him. He unrolled the scroll and found the place where it was written,
18 “The Spirit of the Lord is upon me,
because he has anointed me
to proclaim good news to the poor.
He has sent me to proclaim liberty to the captives
and recovering of sight to the blind,
to set at liberty those who are oppressed,
19 to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor.”

20And he rolled up the scroll and gave it back to the attendant and sat down. And the eyes of all in the synagogue were fixed on him. 21And he began to say to them, “Today this Scripture has been fulfilled in your hearing.” - Luke 4

We may be born to sin, but we don’t have to die in our sins. God has proclaimed “liberty to the captives and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty those who are oppressed”.

And what must we do to be saved?

“31And they said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.” 32And they spoke the word of the Lord to him and to all who were in his house. 33And he took them the same hour of the night and washed their wounds; and he was baptized at once, he and all his family. 34Then he brought them up into his house and set food before them. And he rejoiced along with his entire household that he had believed in God.” - Acts 16

Frankly, I wish more on these threads would proclaim the Gospel, and fight the secular humanists, abortionists, homosexual activists, Islam and others who expressly reject Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.


48 posted on 03/12/2011 3:07:52 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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To: Mr Rogers; Dutchboy88; RnMomof7; Dr. Eckleburg
The vast majority of ‘reformed folk’ on these religion threads shout that we are saved by grace thru election, and that God gives life to those he has chosen so they can then believe.

Wrong. ALL "Reformed folk" on these religion threads shout that we are saved by grace thru election, and that God gives life to those he has chosen so they can then believe. That is a key tenant of Reformational theology because it is oh so clearly taught in Scripture, starting in Genesis and all the way through Revelation. We are not making this stuff up.

The majority of reformed folk on these threads identify themselves as “whatever Catholics are not” instead of “Wherever Jesus leads”.

Still wrong. Our doctrinal threads are clear about the distinctions, such as this thread. BTW, the Holy Spirit leads, it's His job. Each member of the Trinity has a role, the Holy Spirit leads. Bible says so.

Stop wallowing in 1500 AD and share the Good News.

This might be foreign to you, based on you posts so far, but doctrine drives practice. A solid understanding of God's sovereignty makes us confident in sharing the Good News. Want proof?

-William Carey, father of the modern missionary movement, a Particular Baptist, went to India. First convert took 7 years, but he rejoiced knowing that God brought him a convert and would bring more.
-The Great Awakening was brought about by the preaching of Calvinists.
-One of your flagship seminaries, The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky, was founded by a Calvinist J.P. Boyce and the current President, Al Mohler is, yup, a Calvinist.
-Ever sing Amazing Grace? Look at the words closely, they are Calvinistic in nature.
-R.C. Sproul, a dyed in the wool Presbyterian, has his messages translated into 60 languages, including Farsi, and are beamed all over the world.
-And the Presbyterian Church in America has more missionaries per capita, that the Southern Baptist Convention. In fact, I posted a thread earlier that shows what they are doing right now in Japan. The gentlemen in the thread has been serving in Japan for more than 20 years.

We know that God's elect are out there, that gives us great confidence that His word will go forth.

We believe in proclaiming the Gospel

Glad to hear that. So do we. We believe, as Jesus taught, that all of Scripture is about him. Reformed sermons teach just that.

By the way, your passage from Luke, is not the Gospel. It is a proclamation that He who was promised from the beginning has arrived.

The Gospel is this:

1 Corinthians 15:1 Now I would remind you, brothers, of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, in which you stand, 2 and by which you are being saved, if you hold fast to the word I preached to you—unless you believed in vain. 3 For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures, 4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures, 5 and that he appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve. 6 Then he appeared to more than five hundred brothers at one time, most of whom are still alive, though some have fallen asleep. 7 Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles. 8 Last of all, as to one untimely born, he appeared also to me. 9 For I am the least of the apostles, unworthy to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God. 10 But by the grace of God I am what I am, and his grace toward me was not in vain. On the contrary, I worked harder than any of them, though it was not I, but the grace of God that is with me. 11 Whether then it was I or they, so we preach and so you believed.
Great passage. That is what I want exposited at my funeral. Even at my funeral I want the Gospel proclaimed, and not me.
50 posted on 03/12/2011 4:52:41 PM PST by Gamecock (The resurrection of Jesus Christ is both historically credible and existentially satisfying. T.K.)
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To: Mr Rogers; RnMomof7; Gamecock
As you know, I’m a Baptist, and part of the Southern Baptist Convention. Baptists are farther from Roman Catholic theology than reformed folk.

That is not true. Many Baptists whole-heartedly believe in free will which is the basis for Rome's theology.

The difference between adult baptism and infant baptism pales in comparison to the lie of free will and the impious denial of God's predestination of all things.

Arminianism really is the road back to Rome because it says men elect themselves by their own good works.

Just like Rome.

53 posted on 03/12/2011 5:11:12 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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