Posted on 03/05/2011 12:04:37 PM PST by Salvation
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A term meaning "and from the Son," which over the centuries became the center of controversy between the Eastern Churches separated from Rome and the Catholic Church. The Eastern Christians first objected to the insertion of this phrase in the Nicene Creed, which now states that the Holy Spirit "proceeds from the Father and the Son." The last three words had not been in the original creed but were added later, with the approval of Rome. After the ninth century the Eastern leaders challenged not only the addition but the doctrine itself, whether the Holy Spirit proceeded not only from the Father but also from the Son. In recent years the issue has become more historical than doctrinal, since those who believe in Christ's divinity, whether Eastern or Western Christians, all accept the fact that the Third Person proceeds from the Second as well as the Fist Person of the Trinity. Given this common faith, the verbal expression has become secondary.
John 1 |
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1 | In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. |
2 | He was in the beginning with God; |
3 | all things were made through him, and without him was not anything made that was made. |
4 | In him was life, and the life was the light of men. |
5 | The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. |
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re: 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.
This translation makes no sense compared to the way it was translated into English in the beginning, by both Catholics and Protestants;
Douay-Rheims
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
[2] The same was in the beginning with God.
[3] All things were made by him: and without him was made nothing that was made.
[4] In him was life, and the life was the light of men.
[5] And the light shineth in darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.
John 1:1-5 (King James Version)
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2The same was in the beginning with God.
3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
I never uderstood why the Eastern Orthodox laity made such a big deal about the Filioque clause. NOW, in my current experience with Orthodox on FR, they continue to make a big deal out of it, so, I have to disagree with Fr. Harden.
Is it just me?
“But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.”John 14:26.
I suppose this could mean that The Holy Spirit is Directly from the Father, given in the NAME of the Son, OR that The Holy Spirit comes FROM the Father and The Son. Either way, it is a tragedy that such hair-splitting has caused a rift in the Body of Christ that has lasted nearly two millennia.
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