Posted on 02/28/2011 8:18:05 AM PST by hope_dies_last
Have you ever wondered why one of the Ten Commandments seems null and void notably the one calling on believers to observe the Sabbath?
Ask your pastor or priest and you will probably hear it's because Jesus rose from the dead on Sunday... (or because the disciples broke bread on Sunday morning--after a daylong sermon that extended into the night hours the preceding Sabbath Day)
And then there's the little problem of this switch of worship days not being mentioned in the Bible and the historical fact that most Christians continued observing the Sabbath for hundreds of years after Jesus rose from the dead.
So what happened? What caused the switch?
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Why, sure, I fondly recall all the Hannukah and Rosh Hashana festivities down at Our Lady Of Grace Catholic Church. Happens all the time, lol.
the OPC/PCA dreams of a police state like Geneva, where they attacked fellow Protestants as exemplified in
Sources quoted in Philip Schaff's History of the Christian Church, vol. 8:
- Belot, an Anabaptist was arrested for passing out tracts in Geneva and also accusing Calvin of excessive use of wine. With his books and tracts burned, he was banished from the city and told not to return on pain of hanging (J.L. Adams, The Radical Reformation, pp. 597-598).
- Jacques Gruent was racked and then executed for calling Calvin a hypocrite
- A man who publicly protested against the reformer's doctrine of predestination was flogged at all the crossways of the city and then expelled.
- Calvin's Letter to the Marquis Paet, chamberlain to the King of Navarre, 1561. "Honour, glory, and riches shall be the reward of your pains; but above all, do not fail to rid the country of those scoundrels [Anabaptists and others], who stir up the people to revolt against us. Such monsters should be exterminated, as I have exterminated Michael Servetus the Spaniard."
Jean Calvin: "I have had much conversation with many Jews: I have never seen either a drop of piety or a grain of truth or ingenuousnessnay, I have never found common sense in any J##." Lange van Ravenswaay, J. Marius J. (2009), "Calvin and the Jews", in Selderhuis, Herman J., The Calvin Handbook, Grand Rapids, Michigan: Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Chmm... very intersting -- and take this with the OPC's overt anti-Semitism....
You might want to look into it, since lists of atrocities strike me as appealing to you.
Overt, covert ... surely you wouldn’t be splitting hairs would you?
oh, and you want me to recite the numbers of Catholic martyrs in England, Geneva, etc.? The difference is that Calvin created his police state —> what difference is it to you about what the Calvinists do or believe in? They slaughtered anaBaptists as well
lolol.
I grew up in a suburb that was one-third Protestant, one-third Roman Catholic and one-third Jewish. I attended dozens of Seders.
I wonder how many Cronos has attended.
The only "playing" I'm doing is an attempt at providing some balance. Your commentary this morning has been lopsided. The charges, accusations and historical cites posted could just as easily have been directed at your own church, and I suspect you're not unaware of this fact.
Motes and beams, Cronos. Worry about the excesses of your own before parading those of others about. That’s all I’m saying.
Hardly any balance — do you know anything about the OPC and what they do? Do you know their overt anti-semitism?
Do you believe that too? I doubt that you do.
I believe the Abrahamic Covenant remains. One covenant does not necessarily negate another, and has not in this instance.
Your own church has issues with supercessionism, Cronos. If you wish to criticize on this point, you’re not on solid ground.
Your belief that the Abrahamic Covenant remains. One covenant does not necessarily negate another, and has not in this instance. is exactly what The Church believes, namely that "the gifts and the call of God are irrevocable.
Now, I'm pointing out how Dr. Eckleburg's OPC believes the opposite. Sticking to that point, they deny that the Jews still hold the sonship.
This is specifically a doctrine of the tiny 20,000 member cult of DR. Eck's, the Orthodo Presbyterian Cult
Oops, I got my gods mixed up... That is the most obvious problem with polytheism... how do you keep track of all of them? ;-p
Oops, I got my gods mixed up... That is the most obvious problem with polytheism... how do you keep track of all of them?
By the way, I always thought Cronos could beat Zeus (Marduk) any day of the week!!! ;-)
The Sabbath is the Sabbath, from the seventh day of creation until time is no more. That is what Jesus Christ said, so I have no choice but to agree with it, nut cases not withstanding.
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Mat 5:
17 ¶ Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
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Do you argue with those words?
Are you some kind of Adventist? You forget that we are now living in the New Covenant and we Christians are now God’s chosen people. The Holy day is on Sunday for us. Your adventists think this is some kind of mark, but that is a wrong belief
>> “Are you some kind of Adventist?” <<
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Most assuredly not!
But where the Adventists have gotten something right, I cannot condemn them.
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>> “You forget that we are now living in the New Covenant and we Christians are now Gods chosen people.” <<
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Yes, and no.
The new covenant began at the resurrection of Christ, but Christians continued to obey him and keep his feasts and sabbaths for 200 years thereafter, almost without exception.
The sabbath has not been changed in any way. It is forever. Christians didn’t consider sunday as anything but the first work day of the week until corruption set in.
The seed of Jacob remains as “The Circumcision” as Paul declared in Romans, and will remain so. You do appear to be somewhat confused on this, and I suggest that you memorize the epistle to the Romans as a means of clearing your mind on this. They are temporarily blinded, so that we can be “grafted in” but that graft has yet to be made. All things at their appointed time.
Christians have worshipped on Sunday since early times, there was no corruption in the early times except in the minds of false cults like Adventists or Mormons
The adventists are not the point; the point is that the day of worship appointed by God is the 7th day, and always will be, according to his word.
There is not a shred of support for any other day.
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