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To: Natural Law
Do you think this is going to gain you any converts to Catholicism?

It just shows your intolerance and hatred towards other Christian religions, that is not exactly an endearing trait that would want any Protestant to be even interested in such hateful religion, as Catholicism, if you are its representative.

Not to mention that you are deliberately misrepresenting Calvinism.

Thank God for Luther and Calvin, who reformed the Catholic religion, so it's not the only option for Christians.

7 posted on 02/27/2011 8:30:06 PM PST by Innovative (Weakness is provocative.)
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To: Innovative
"Do you think this is going to gain you any converts to Catholicism?"

That is not my objective.

15 posted on 02/27/2011 8:41:49 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Innovative

“It just shows your intolerance and hatred towards other Christian religions...”

That’s a whiny way to argue the point. As a Calvinist, I don’t see intolerance and hatred in his post, but ignorance of the Calvinist position. There is no problem or disagreement with James. James is explaining what saving faith looks like - true faith produces good works.

Here is the Catholic position from Trent: If anyone shall say that the good works of the man justified are in such a way the gift of God that they are not also the good merits of him who is justified, or that the one justified by the good works . . . does not truly merit increase of grace, eternal life, and the attainment of eternal life (if he should die in grace), and also an increase of glory; let him be anathema. (1)

Good works do not mean one merits eternal life.

(1) Norman L. Geisler and Ralph E. MacKenzie, Roman Catholics and Evangelicals : Agreements and Differences (Grand Rapids, Mich.: Baker Books, 1995), 227.


28 posted on 02/27/2011 9:31:46 PM PST by Gil4 (Sometimes it's not low self-esteem - it's just accurate self-assessment.)
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To: Innovative
Intolerance? That's in the following postsAnd those are just a few examples of intolerance. Yet, I've not seen you saying anything about these marvellous examples of intolerance. Why?
67 posted on 02/28/2011 5:55:03 AM PST by Cronos ("They object to tradition saying that they themselves are wiser than the apostles" - Ire.III.2.2)
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