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To: Innovative

“It just shows your intolerance and hatred towards other Christian religions...”

That’s a whiny way to argue the point. As a Calvinist, I don’t see intolerance and hatred in his post, but ignorance of the Calvinist position. There is no problem or disagreement with James. James is explaining what saving faith looks like - true faith produces good works.

Here is the Catholic position from Trent: If anyone shall say that the good works of the man justified are in such a way the gift of God that they are not also the good merits of him who is justified, or that the one justified by the good works . . . does not truly merit increase of grace, eternal life, and the attainment of eternal life (if he should die in grace), and also an increase of glory; let him be anathema. (1)

Good works do not mean one merits eternal life.

(1) Norman L. Geisler and Ralph E. MacKenzie, Roman Catholics and Evangelicals : Agreements and Differences (Grand Rapids, Mich.: Baker Books, 1995), 227.


28 posted on 02/27/2011 9:31:46 PM PST by Gil4 (Sometimes it's not low self-esteem - it's just accurate self-assessment.)
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To: Gil4
Good works do not mean one merits eternal life.

Correct, that is the Catholic position.

61 posted on 02/28/2011 4:24:42 AM PST by Cronos ("They object to tradition saying that they themselves are wiser than the apostles" - Ire.III.2.2)
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