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1 posted on 02/25/2011 11:58:33 PM PST by hawkins
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Technically speaking, the indwelling of the Holy Spirit did not occur in the OT, but an embuement occurred.

To better grasp indwelling, study the use of the Hebrew term “Shechanah” also referenced as Shekinah Glory, which is a manifestation of God’s physical presence.

It also is the source for the halo depicted in many 1st millennial Christian art pieces.


2 posted on 02/26/2011 12:16:44 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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Obviously, the OP has never met the Holy Spirit face to face...(yeah I read the link)

Sad and just further evidence that the Body of Christ is infected by the darkness in so many places.


3 posted on 02/26/2011 2:20:41 AM PST by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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Okay I was taking courses at the Assemblies of God Theological Seminary in Springfield Missouri in 1993 - 1994, while I was a youth minister at a Presbterian Church of America in Springfield, Missouri.

I was reading a required book by Dr. Stanley Horton, PhD Theology from Harvard University on the Holy Spirit and he was quoting a Princeton Theological Professor from the 1800s, Charles Hodge whom denied the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Stanley Horton strived to show that even a Princeton Theological Professor believed that speaking in tongues and healing promised in the atonement of Jesus Christ, and to prove his pentecostal viewpoint he took the material as written by Hodge out of context to promote a false teaching.

Yes it is a faslse teaching. Keep this in mind, the roots of Pentecostalism arose of the so called Azusa Street revivals that occurred in California.

Pentecostalism and Charimatic denominations believe in strongly that evryting in the new Testament must occur yet today in the world to prove God’s existence. God exists and he does not need to be proven by the continuous revelations through miracles to occur everyday. If a healing occurs Great. But when a religion or pastor, rabbi, Imam desire the miraclous to occur everyday it cease to be of God it is a manipulation by man to serve a man centered theological that denies the very existence of God, but lifts up Satan with its continued persistence to show God existence.

God works yet today he does need to be seen by the miraclous. God is seen in scripture. he does not need to announce his presence with clanging cymbals, drums, guitars and emotionalism.

Emotionalism is subjective it denies that the objective (truth) is real unless the subjective (signs and wonders) must first prove the objective. ‘Ye of little faith’ is what the modern church has become. It is a convulted view to christianity that is based in something other that what God desires.

Look at what the false religions teach - signs and wonders must prove the existence.

The Shia muslims believe strongly in the 12th Imam is to return and yet may even be on the earth since 2006-2007. In 2013 the 12th Imam will fight a great battle with the deceiver.. Is it now understandable why the conflict is now occurring yet today a radical sect that is a minority is striving to cause conflict and chaos and pushing the world to a climax through its own false religion.

Many of the decieved Christian denominations will desire to join alongside Satan and seek ecumenical meetings and an openenss that believes all religions have the equal and same way to Jesus Christ.

This is a false teaching that will lead many astray into the pit of hell

Sorry to be preachy but hopeful this is understandable in how the Church has been lead a stray by the seeking of signs and wonders. The church of today has become so secularized and pitted with false doctrines that Doctrine no longer is existence in many of the churches that exist. It must truly be a heartache to God to see so many be lead astry by the seeking of something that destroyed the people of Israel, whom were brought out of slavery and bondage in Egypt and had to have a sign and wonder to prove the existence of God to people whom forgot their plight and life in Egypt. There were only a few compared to the many whom left Egypt and entered the promised land.


4 posted on 02/26/2011 4:37:14 AM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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