SAINTHOOD FOR POPE JOHN PAUL II? NOT A PRAYER!

Philadelphia Magazine ^ | 15 Feb 2011 | Chris Freind

[grace522]

It is incomprehensible that in light of those crises, the Catholic Church would respond by fast-tracking the late Pope John Paul II for sainthood, since so many sins occurred under his watch.

If John Paul’s beatification --- part of the path to sainthood--- takes place as scheduled on May 1, it will have been the fastest in history, thanks to Pope Benedict XVI, who waived the requirement of a five-year waiting period after a person’s death for that process to begin.

I’m sorry, but what planet are these folks living on…Uranus?

One way or another, Pope John Paul is complicit in the scandal; he’s either responsible or irresponsible for what occurred on his watch.

[grace522]

This should get some comments.

[Responsibility2nd]

This should get some comments.

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Yeah, like why didn’t you post this in Religion?

[crosshairs]

All believers are “sanctified - i.e. made saints - through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all” (Hebrews 10:10). All Christians are saints because of what Christ did for us.

[RobRoy]

If he’s a follower of Christ then he is, by definition, a saint.

Saint = Christian
Christian = Saint

http://www.biblegateway.com/keyword/?search=saint&searchtype=all&version1=9&bookset=2

“Sainthood” as a human created label is in the vein of pleasing man. As all saints/Christians know, that is not the goal, though one can sometimes stumble on it on his path to pleasing God.

[Kansas58]

Nonsense.
Stop splitting hairs.
NOBODY believed exactly what you believe, today, during the first 1,500 years of the Christian Faith.
You waste way too much time with word games.
I do not pretend to be an expert in translations, or in very many other languages.
However, I am sure that you are not any expert, either.

[chris_bdba]

Actually Hebrews 10 in our BIble says:
[10] In the which will, we are sanctified by the oblation of the body of Jesus Christ once.

[AuH2ORepublican]

I believe that “sanctified” is another word for “blessed,” no?

[Carpe Cerevisi]

[Alex Murphy]

It is incomprehensible that in light of those crises, the Catholic Church would respond by fast-tracking the late Pope John Paul II for sainthood, since so many sins occurred under his watch.

Ping to watch the fireworks.

[ClearCase_guy]

If John Paul’s beatification --- part of the path to sainthood--- takes place as scheduled on May 1, it will have been the fastest in history

*ahem*

From wikipedia:

Anthony of Lisbon (or Padua) is known to have become the "quickest" saint in the history of the Catholic Church because he was canonized by Pope Gregory IX less than one year after his death on the 30th of May of 1232.

[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

‘since so many sins occurred under his watch.’

This may surprise you, but plenty of sins occurred under the watch of Jesus Christ.

[DManA]

Why is there such a rush?

[Carpe Cerevisi]

From the article: "And they wouldn’t be witnessing their churches continue to empty and the faithful dwindle, with rank-and-file priests now constituting the world’s largest old-age club, since so few young people enter the seminary."

Had the author done his homework he would mostly find that many of the more orthodox seminaries are bursting at the seams with young seminarians and a waiting list for many.

[marshmallow]

It is incomprehensible that in light of those crises, the Catholic Church would respond by fast-tracking the late Pope John Paul II for sainthood, since so many sins occurred under his watch.

Is there some sort of ecclesial sin "threshold", above which a Pope may not be considered for sainthood? If so, what is it and who decides? Not the Pope, obviously, because he's the individual whose sanctity is under consideration. Maybe the blogosphere decides.......or the New York Times.......or...........

In what units is sin measured and where does one go to find the latest stats?

The writer is an idiot.

[Cicero]

Pretty stupid. Even with the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost presiding over the Church, it is full of sinners.

Jesus chose twelve Apostles, and one of them was Judas.

John Paul II did what he could with the dreadful mess which he inherited from his immediate predecessors.

[ReverendJames]

Ok then, since you're not an expert either according to what you say, my view is this:

"In many Protestant churches, the word "saint" is used more generally to refer to anyone who is a Christian. This is similar in usage to Paul's numerous references in the New Testament of the Bible. In this sense, anyone who is within the Body of Christ (i.e., a professing Christian) is a 'saint' because of their relationship with Christ Jesus. Because of this, many Protestants consider prayers to the saints to be idolatry or even necromancy. Dead Christians are awaiting resurrection, and are not able to do anything for the living saint."

Within some Protestant traditions, "saint" is also used to refer to any born-again Christian. Many emphasis the traditional New Testament meaning of the word, preferring to write "saint" to refer to any believer, in continuity with the doctrine of the priesthood of all believers.

[Williams]

He’s also responsible for all priest parking tickets worldwide while he was Pope.

Just wondering if more underage young men have been molested by priests or by all the wonderful leaders of the gay rights movement. I’m sure we’ll see a comparison study /s.

[Campion]

Canonization endorses a person’s personal sanctity and his example of Christian virtue, not necessarily his administrative competence or efficiency. “Bad stuff happened on his watch” is an indictment of the latter.

[OpusatFR]

I don’t understand why a non-Catholic would object to Catholics naming certain individuals saints.

I certainly couldn’t care less about the non-Catholics’ self-proclaimed “Prophets of God” and their messages.

~To each his own.

[piytar]

Pope John Paul II helped Reagan and Thatcher take down the USSR. Libscum will never forgive hime for that, hence idiotic articles such as this one.