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{ LCMS } Lutheran leader sees Protestants aligning
Fort Wayne Journal Gazette ^ | 2/5/11 | Rosa Salter Rodriguez

Posted on 02/05/2011 2:20:30 PM PST by SmithL

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1 posted on 02/05/2011 2:20:33 PM PST by SmithL
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To: lightman; rhema

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2 posted on 02/05/2011 2:22:04 PM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Errr.. Most traditional is the Wisconsin Synod. The Missouri Synod went liberal a little while back. No way EVER the Wisconsin Synod joins up.


3 posted on 02/05/2011 2:22:40 PM PST by The Iceman Cometh (The Blood Libel Media, serving Satan since 1950.)
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To: SmithL
The divide is spreading through the heart of all the mainline protestant denominations. As the secularizers undermine the faith, serious Christians begin to leave and find community with their counterparts fleeing the other apostate churches. The LCMS is in no apparent danger of this schism, having a solid grounding in the faith.

It is widely expected that this will lead to a vast realignment, traditional Christians in one group, secular revisionists in another, opposing group, with the old denominations being far less salient than they have been in the past.

4 posted on 02/05/2011 2:31:19 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: SmithL

There will be a new category, just like in politics. Conservative Christians—Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox will align themselves with the Bible and Jesus, against the Liberal denominations.

That action, along with what is going on around the planet, will just make the divide Good & Evil more pronounced.


5 posted on 02/05/2011 2:43:24 PM PST by madison10
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To: hinckley buzzard

Homosexual acceptance seems to be a poison pill. This is good news that Missouri Synod may become a new anchor in Christianity. I am sure Wisconsin Synod is fine too, I just don’t know much about them.


6 posted on 02/05/2011 2:46:43 PM PST by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: SmithL

““It is my deep desire to refrain from statements against homosexuality, at the same time affirming the biblical stance....”

In other words,streamline it so that it is palateable to all. When the LCMS aligns itself with the Catholic bishops and the Mormons nothing is really changing.


7 posted on 02/05/2011 2:49:13 PM PST by taxesareforever (Release Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and let him and his family get on with their lives.)
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To: The Iceman Cometh
Now that's hard core.

And the Wisconsin Synod is different than the Missouri Synod in what way (other than that Ying Yang thing of the W/M/W/M?

Seriously ~ edumacate we heathen folk.

8 posted on 02/05/2011 3:38:56 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: SmithL

Well, all these missions to the Third World are nice, but frankly, they need to do a lot of work here in the US.


9 posted on 02/05/2011 3:59:19 PM PST by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: muawiyah
Except with regard to the role of women in the church polity, the difference between the Missouri and Wisconsin synods don't have much to do with “tradition”. The Missouri Synod allows women to vote as members of a congregation; the Wisconsin Synod does not. Neither allows women clergy.

For what it's worth, a Missouri Synod congregation adhering to a traditional form of the Divine Service (essentially the English translation of Luther's Mass) is far more traditional in its worship than a Wisconsin Synod congregation following a contemporary form of liturgy.

10 posted on 02/05/2011 4:00:02 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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Detail question here: Luther's services were counseled by German norms, but isn't the Wisconsin crowd a mite more Scandinavian? Their "contemporary" or even their "traditional" would necessarily be different, right?

Like Germans aren't Swedes. Swedes aren't Germans. To the trained eye vast differences are obvious ~ kinda' anyway!

11 posted on 02/05/2011 4:05:31 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Mr. Lucky

Or, maybe vice versa what with that deal with the former Finnish Lutheran synod.


12 posted on 02/05/2011 4:12:05 PM PST by muawiyah
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LCMS Ping

It would be great if protestants could unite on faith and doctrine. Getting together just because we agree homosexuality is a sin is not a good idea.

Matthew.....keep your eyes on the ball son!!!

13 posted on 02/05/2011 4:15:32 PM PST by RepRivFarm ("During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." -George Orwell)
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It would be great if protestants could unite on faith and doctrine. Getting together just because we agree homosexuality is a sin is not a good idea.

I agree.. I love my Lutheran brethren, but we hold many points of differing doctrine..

Either we stand on our doctrine or we stand on a foundation of social sand..

14 posted on 02/05/2011 4:20:05 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

The Wisconsin Synod would be to the right of the Missouri Synod.


15 posted on 02/05/2011 4:39:34 PM PST by Vegasrugrat
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To: taxesareforever
“It is my deep desire to refrain from statements against homosexuality, at the same time affirming the biblical stance....”

This is a distressing statement, it is imperative christians take a strong stance against all sin.

16 posted on 02/05/2011 4:44:35 PM PST by Vegasrugrat
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>> This is a distressing statement, it is imperative christians take a strong stance against all sin. <<

Yeah, but it’s a little wierd to waste much breath on a sin that’s a temptation for only a few percent of the population. Keep the focus on the real purpose of sexuality and you shouldn’t even have to mention homosexuality, except as an instance of how far away from sanity we’ve drifted.

But yes, I certainly agree that Christians need to take a strong stance against all sin. When homosexuality is mentioned, it needs to be sharply condemned.


17 posted on 02/05/2011 5:13:35 PM PST by dangus ("The floor of Hell is paved with the skulls of bishops" -- St. John Crysostom ("the Golden-Mouthed"))
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Lutheran Ping!

Christ is in our midst!

18 posted on 02/05/2011 5:16:11 PM PST by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini)
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To: muawiyah
Seriously ~ edumacate we heathen folk.

First, did I offend you in some way? In no way was I trying to be elitist or a snob.

As far as the synods are concerned, there's a long history of the major synods namely the LCA(ELCA), Missouri and Wisconsin Synod. On a scale, the ELCA has the most liberal policies (female pastors, etc), the Missouri is typically more conservative and the Wisconsin is the most conservative. Although, it is quite likely that certain churches in the Missouri Synod are run as conservative as a Wisconsin Synod. I believe Missouri does allow female pastors which are not allowed in Wisconsin. Also, Wisconsin synod churches operate with only the males as voting members. I grew up and was confirmed in LCA then in my 20's was Missouri and finally Wisconsin (although they are they are not as widespread).

Finally, it is not Wisconsin's belief that they are the only saving church meaning they don't have the attitude of the catholics where if you ain't catholic, you're screwed.

Peace.

19 posted on 02/05/2011 5:39:09 PM PST by The Iceman Cometh (The Blood Libel Media, serving Satan since 1950.)
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To: Mr. Lucky
Neither allows women clergy

Not so sure about this. I attended a Missouri Synod church in Myrtle Beach, SC and had a visiting female pastor preside over service at one point.

20 posted on 02/05/2011 5:42:39 PM PST by The Iceman Cometh (The Blood Libel Media, serving Satan since 1950.)
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