"Christians"
treat solid Biblical TRUTH
as garbage.
Posted on 02/04/2011 11:29:26 AM PST by RJR_fan
Bottom Line (last few paragraphs):
Based on the continuity of themes—wealth, kingdom, inheritance—Jesus’ teaching to the disciples should be considered of one piece with the parable of the rich fool. The section of Scripture, Luke 12:13–34, should be taken as a whole. And the immediate message was the disinheritance of Israel, and the transfer of the Kingdom to the New Testament church. This blessing, we are told, is the “Father’s good pleasure” (12:32).
Ooops they are just using PROPANE heaters That is what the Hippies out on the West Mesa are doing.
hmmmmmm
This is a plain falsehood. It is libelous. It is also more proof of the desperation of lying futurists.
The key is the time word "until" in verse 25.
Romans 11: 28-29 As regards the gospel, they are enemies of God for your sake. But as regards election, they are beloved for the sake of their forefathers. For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.
It was the time word "until" in verse 25 that got me rethinking my views on eschatology, that's probably why I didn't think about verse 29, which is more appropriate for this thread.
For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.
If something is irrevocable it can't be divorced from.
The "until" got me to realize that God is not done with Israel. Once I realized this simple thing The Revelation of Jesus Christ started making a lot of sense.
Remember, Quix. If Scripture is true, they lose.
You're right!
It was the time word "until" in verse 25 that got me rethinking my views on eschatology, that's probably why I didn't think about verse 29, which is more appropriate for this thread.
For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.
If something is irrevocable it can't be divorced from.
The "until" got me to realize that God is not done with Israel. Once I realized this simple thing The Revelation of Jesus Christ started making a lot of sense.
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ABSOLUTELY INDEED!
I’ve often been entertained by your “Quixicated” replies, especially the occasional flurry of white hankies.
But, this one is troubling, Quix. I’m concerned for you. Replacement Theology is disturbing and worthy of rebuke, but this is verging on the feedback loop gibberish written by Jared Loughner, imho.
Sadly so.
OK. OK.
Was pulled anyway, I see.
Basically, I couldn’t find my printed earlier version of my FONT TEST, so I decided to post another so I could print it for easy access in my new 3’ X 6’ diameter carousel by my chair.
And, I thought it would be fun to tweak the hideousness of REPLACEMENTAIANISM in the process.
That’s all.
Along with:
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
SEARCH AND REPLACE
has it’s strengths and weaknesses. LOL.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and do a FWIW...Don't cut it off... :)
There are those who believe that the Gates of Hell (Abraham's Bosom) are still intact for non-believing Jews...
And there are those of us who believe that when the Rapture happens, The Holy Spirit leaves the earth with the Church (Bride)...Salvation by Grace thru faith is over with...
Those left on the earth during the Tribulation will be saved, only by their good works AND the Testimony of their belief in Jesus Christ as layed out in the Gospels...While they will be saved, they will not be part of the church...
As far as the others' beliefs in the current Abraham's Bosom, Jesus will again descend and open those gates (when Satan is dumped into Hell at the end of the Tribulation), again preach to those behind the gates and us His keys to again unlock the Gates of Hell...
And of course, Jesus made the true claim that the Gates of Hell would not prevail against His church, Matt: 16...
Seems as tho there's a lot more in that BOOK than many people realize...All those little words are the most fascinating...The ones such as til, untill, shall be, then, or, etc...Seems people don't pay much attention to them...
BTW, I believe we are instructed to preach to anyone God puts in front of us...
Since this is the easiest to respond to I'll start here. I agree.
For a Born Again Christian to not witness to someone is an indicator that they hate them. I don't want anyone to be damned. I know God has a plan for Israel (the Bible tells me so) and I want to support them at the same time I want to evangelize to them because if they aren't in the 1/3rd that God brings thru the Tribulation they are lost.
There are those who believe that the Gates of Hell (Abraham's Bosom) are still intact for non-believing Jews...
Obviously we are just conjecturing, but if so it would have to be those that died after Resurrection. However, why would this be? Are they any different then anyone else who has died in their sins?
And there are those of us who believe that when the Rapture happens, The Holy Spirit leaves the earth with the Church (Bride)...Salvation by Grace thru faith is over with...
This would be an argument for a mid-Trib rapture. The two witnesses aren't killed until the mid point and I'm assuming the Holy Spirit is with them.
Those left on the earth during the Tribulation will be saved, only by their good works AND the Testimony of their belief in Jesus Christ as layed out in the Gospels...While they will be saved, they will not be part of the church...
It makes sense we return with Jesus Christ when He puts an end to the Tribulation. The Bride has already been married at that point.
And of course, Jesus made the true claim that the Gates of Hell would not prevail against His church, Matt: 16...
I think that occurred after the Crucifixion. I don't see how a special consideration would be made for Jews after Jesus' ministry on Earth.
Seems as tho there's a lot more in that BOOK than many people realize...All those little words are the most fascinating...The ones such as til, untill, shall be, then, or, etc...Seems people don't pay much attention to them...
The more I read it the more I see. I think the hardest part is being willing to challenge everything and expecting it to be consistent and make sense. I had the hardest time with eschatology until I realized the Tribulation is all about God opening the eyes of Israel, that Israel is Hosea's bride.
Not that I would expect anything less from him. Like Hamas, he just lobs bombs at Jews to make them squirm.
Since it seems that RJR_Fan has left the discussion, I’ll forward my question on to you, as the other defender of Preterism here.
If I understand this article correctly, the whole thrust is that because of Israel’s infidelity to God, Christ was sent to act as God’s Lawyer in establishing a case against Israel so that God could divorce Israel and marry the Church.
Am I correct in stating that this is what you believe? I’m trying to establish something here and I just need to know exactly what you believe.
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