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Rick Warren Teams up with Swedenborg Cult Follower Dr. Oz
Christian News Wire ^ | Jan. 13, 2011 | Steve McConkey

Posted on 01/21/2011 4:08:13 PM PST by Gamecock

On January 15, Rick Warren will kick-off a 52-week Daniel Plan to become healthier with Dr. Mehmet Oz, a follower of cult leader Emmanuel Swedenborg.

According to Warren's website, his church will host a 52-week course to stress losing weight and becoming healthier. The kick-off event will include Dr. Mehmet Oz, Dr. Daniel Amen, and Dr. Mark Hyman. All three have Eastern spiritual connections.

Dr. Mehmert Oz is a follower of Emmanuel Swedenborg according to The New Church website. He has appeared on the Oprah Winfrey Show and is Professor of Cardiac Surgery at Columbia University.

He is inspired by Emmanuel Swedenborg, a cult leader who died in 1772 in Sweden. Swedenborgianism has up to 50,000 members worldwide according to the Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry website. They deny the atonement, the trinity, and the deity of the Holy Spirit.

They believe all religions lead to God and that Christianity must go through a rebirth. Also, they do not believe in a personal devil. They believe the Bible is not inspired and that when people die, they become an angel or an evil spirit.

Emmanuel Swedenborg had a vision in 1745 where he supposedly saw creatures crawling on the walls. He believed God then appeared to him as a man and told him that he would be the person to promote the new teachings to the world.

The other two speakers are Dr. Daniel Amen and Dr. Mark Hyman. Dr. Amen teaches tantric sex, a Hindu mystical approach to sex. He teaches Eastern religion meditation and energy-based Reiki, a New Age practice. Dr. Mark Hyman promotes mystical meditation based on Buddhist principles.

Christian Investigator President Steve McConkey says, "It is troubling for a top pastor in the United States to promote false teachers. We are living at an all-time low spiritually in the United States with weak leaders. We need to teach basic Bible principles without legalism."


TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: droz; emmanuelswedenborg; faithandphilosophy; mehmetoz; rickwarren; swedenborg; ybpdln
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To: La Enchiladita

He gives me the creeps too but I can’t put my finger on why!


41 posted on 01/22/2011 9:58:41 AM PST by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: muawiyah

Back when he first came to the adoring media’
s attention, it was his sloppy looks and unwashed greasiness that attracted them, he didn’t look like a minister. He needs something to rev up the coffers, Oprah’s new network must have made an offer. Now that OZ guy I’m glad I’m not the only one that finds something ‘off” in that one, he’s some kind of weirdo somehow


42 posted on 01/22/2011 11:57:33 AM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Question Liberal Authority

43 posted on 01/22/2011 12:15:59 PM PST by Wallop the Cat
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To: Gamecock

My Pastor thinks this guy is saved.. as apparently does John Piper

http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=5636


44 posted on 01/22/2011 1:47:25 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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To: muawiyah

“little red man” and “herb woman”? Are these Nordic deities?


45 posted on 01/22/2011 2:14:34 PM PST by Cronos (Bobby Jindal 2012)
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To: Cronos

I wouldn’t say strictly “Nordic,” for the little red man at least. Teutonic maybe.


46 posted on 01/22/2011 2:16:08 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Question Liberal Authority
I hate that portrait of the Buddha -- it's got Chinese features and is fat, whereas the real Gautama Buddha was Indian, and was an ascetic earlier on, so more than definitely thin. I think the best depictions or most likely true to life are found in the Indian cave temples of Ajanta and Ellora and Kanheri


47 posted on 01/22/2011 2:18:45 PM PST by Cronos (Bobby Jindal 2012)
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To: muawiyah

ha ha! Neko Neko — anime rocks! And foo dog!


48 posted on 01/22/2011 2:20:30 PM PST by Cronos (Bobby Jindal 2012)
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To: Frantzie
I see a sexual discrimination suit in Dr. Oz future. It is one of those faux biblical "visions" I just had.

LOL!! I had no idea you're so funny. And Rick Warren! Don't get me started!

49 posted on 01/22/2011 2:21:57 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Remember, Reflect, Renew: 2011, 10 years since 9/11. Never Forget.)
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To: Cronos
They can be if you want!

"Little Red Man" refers to an hallucinogenic mushroom called "amanita muscaria". It's red with white dots. Reindeer love to eat them. In the good old days it was the duty of the shaman to eat the mushroom and then urinate into a container which would be passed around the community for a "high".

This is the ONLY substance of its kind that does not get metabolised in the human body. Consequently it is believed to be "soma" as referred to in ancient Indo-European texts.

"Herb Woman" appears to have many tasks ~ gathering herbs is definitely one!

Thor and Odin were picked up by the locals.

50 posted on 01/22/2011 2:22:35 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Finny

correctly written — the colas are highly fattening as well as we have too much cheese everywhere!


51 posted on 01/22/2011 2:24:09 PM PST by Cronos (Bobby Jindal 2012)
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To: RegulatorCountry; muawiyah

I’ve not heard of either — are these in the Aesir or Vanir families?


52 posted on 01/22/2011 2:26:28 PM PST by Cronos (Bobby Jindal 2012)
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To: muawiyah

Now that bit about linking little red man to soma is fascinating and the first time I’ve read it — but how do you link that to the idea that soma was originally “developed” when the Aryans were wandering in Central Asia? Are there these mushrooms there?


53 posted on 01/22/2011 2:28:28 PM PST by Cronos (Bobby Jindal 2012)
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To: Cronos
Buddha was an EASTERN SAKA ~ better known today as the Yakuts/Sakha, or the Daimyo (and royal families) in Japan.

They were originally another Chinese ethnicity several thousand years ago, and remained so throughout time.

Their "ancient" records were recently translated by Russian archaeologists ~ who were extremely curious about this very strange group who speak an anomalous sort of Turcic language.

It looks like these are the people who traveled North and South from Siberia to the Ganges valley on immensely long treks to trade all sorts of things. Think of their route as like a piece of The Silk Road with an Eastern leg to Nepal and India.

BTW, people have always been curious about why the Sakha herded cattle and not just the more traditional reindeer, yaks, goats, horses and sheep. Nobody else in that region of the world herds cattle.

Now we know.

Apparently they made a pretty good living with their way of life and could afford to keep up with the Chinese (nearby) when it came to military technology.

They arrived in Korea and Japan some time in the mid 500s AD. This would be a result of being driven out of their Siberian rangeland by the climate anomaly that created the Dark Ages in Europe and Northern Asia and China.

The reason folks know when they arrived in the Far East was simple ~ they began a long term conquest of those territories ~ with Japan taking the longest. War didn't stop until the Tokugawa Shogunate, that that's about 1000 years.

The Saka are mentioned in the Mahabarat as taking part in the War between Truth and Lies.

Most of the other meaningful Turkic invasions of India have been undertaken by people East of the Himalayas.

54 posted on 01/22/2011 2:41:09 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Cronos
c h e e s e

Did somebody say, "cheeeese"? That's what I'm hungry for, I'd forgotten it even existed, LOL

55 posted on 01/22/2011 2:47:25 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: Cronos
Amanita Muscaria grows all across Northern Asia and dips down to Earth's third icecap called the Himalayas.

It's a potent source of hallucinogenic material in the Old World. it's a dud in the New World (partly because it does not do well here and also because there are 378 MORE POTENT wild plants, mushrooms and "stuff" in the New World).

The ancient records show that the priests/shamen ate soma then urinated into a container, and the devotees then drank the urine and got high.

That's exactly what goes on in the Far North these days ~ and is KNOWN to have been a custom among the Sa'ami up into historic times.

BTW, the Norse are not native to Scandinavia, so whatever they were doing "way back when" they were doing it somewhere else!

When they moved to Scandinavia the Sa'ami picked up on Thor and Odin. Thor Hyerdahl believed (and I think proved) that Odin was a real guy! Thor was a different story.

The Sa'ami also had FOUR HOUSEHOLD GODDESSES in their pantheon. They all had what seem to be quite suspiciously names more typical of Southern India than of Northern Indo-European sources.

Remember, the Sumerians were not Indo-Europeans and their most ancient tales are of visiting places with lots of ice ~ it is now believed the original Sumerian language was part of the Dravidian family.

56 posted on 01/22/2011 2:49:55 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: RnMomof7

I don’t know if he’s saved or not.

But what I do know is he should not be a Pastor.


57 posted on 01/22/2011 3:06:45 PM PST by Gamecock (The resurrection of Jesus Christ is both historically credible and existentially satisfying. T.K.)
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To: muawiyah

Buddha was a Shakya, not a Sakha. Shakya was one of the numerous janapadas in northern india, and the people were Kshatriya. This is quite different from the Turkic Yakuts who didn’t move from their areas around Lake Baikal southwards until well into the 10th century AD


58 posted on 01/22/2011 9:12:14 PM PST by Cronos (Bobby Jindal 2012)
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To: muawiyah

The Sumerian language linked to Dravidian — yes, I’ve heard that hypothesis and linking Dravidian, Sumerian, Georgian and Basque into a super-family tree. It seems to have merits, yet of course the languages have been isolates for so long and influenced by other languages it’s hard to give a definite, but it seem highly plausible


59 posted on 01/22/2011 9:14:17 PM PST by Cronos (Bobby Jindal 2012)
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To: Cronos

Don’t let susa read your post about Dravidians. ;^)

OTOH, Dr Oz appears to be a marketing genius. Managers at several Trader Joe’s testify that whatever Dr Oz mentions that week on he TV, they are sold out of the same products within hours and can’t get them except by a over a month back order.


60 posted on 03/31/2012 11:14:23 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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