The Bishops of Nicea were very orthodox and correctly taught the Catholic Faith they received from Sacred Scripture and Tradition.
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They were not called of God they were called by the Pagan Murder Constantine.
the Nicene Creed was etched in chaos
As time went on Constantine should become ever more involved with the Christian church. He appeared at first to have very little grasp of the basic beliefs governing Christian faith. But gradually he must have become more acquainted with them. So much so that he sought to resolve theological disputes among the church itself.
In this role he summoned the bishops of the western provinces to Arelate (Arles) in AD 314, after the so-called Donatist schism had split the church in Africa.
If this willingness to resolve matters through peaceful debate showed one side of Constantine, then his brutal enforcement of the decisions reached at such meetings showed the other.
Following the decision of the council of bishops at Arelate, donatist churches were confiscated and the followers of this branch of Christianity were brutally repressed.
Evidently Constantine was also capable of persecuting Christians, if they were deemed to be the 'wrong type of Christians'.
Constantine: The 13th Apostle (Who used Christianity to get gain a massive empire
Many Anti Mormons embraced the vision story of Constantine there is no announcement This is my beloved Son here him?
The use of a physical cross as a sign and symbol emerged gradually in the development of Christian practices.
While the theology of the cross is taught by Paul and the sign of the cross for baptism and protection is reported fairly early, the use of a physical cross rarely appears before the fourth century.(1)
At that time, two events involving Constantine led to the use of a physical cross or cross form by the state, the emerging church, and Christians.
do you know why you see little evidence of the cross before the 4th century??? the Church was underground for the most part and didn’t have the opportunity to openly dsiplay their faith, if they did, it could nean their life!
“the use of a physical cross NEVER appears” on a mormon building...
Just why is that ???
or is this also a Robert Millet moment ???
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Version Number When Published Brief Description |
Age Year |
Pillar of light |
No. of Person- ages |
Father Present |
Son Present |
Question: Join What Sect? |
Remarks-References |
1. Official version, written 1838,
first Published 1842
(There are minor differences between the various source references,
Ensign Jan 1985, page 14)
|
14
1820 |
yes | 2 |
yes
Both spoke |
yes |
Join none |
Lucy, Hyrum, Samuel, Sophronia join the Presbyterian Church - JSH, pages 49-50, 1981 edition;
Times & Seasons, March, April 1842;
Ensign Jan. 1985, page 14;
Joseph Smith's First Vision by
Milton V. Backamn, Bookcraft, 1971, 1980, Appendix C, page 160f
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2. Dictated by Smith to F.G. Williams, Summer to Nov. 1832 | 14 or 15 | yes |
1 | no |
yes Saw Lord, He "spoke" |
No question,
told "None doeth good",
sins forgiven
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Joseph Smith's First Vision, Appendix A, page 155f |
3. Written by Smith,
his 1832 diary,
in his own hand
|
15 |
yes |
1 |
no |
yes Saw the Lord Jesus Christ |
No question,
told sins forgiven,
all do no good
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Ensign, Dec. 1984, pages 24-26; ibid, Jan. 1985, page 11 |
4. Smith's diary of 1835,
recorded by
Warren Cowdery,
Nov. 9, 1835, conversation of Smith with Joshua
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About 14 |
yes |
One, then another like unto first |
?
|
?
Second spoke, saw many angels
|
No questions,
told sins forgiven,
Jesus is Son
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Joseph Smith's First Vision, Appen. B |
5. Letter form Smith to
John Wentworth,
editor of Chicago Democrat
|
none |
no |
2 |
? They spoke |
? |
No Question |
Joseph Smith's First Vision, Appendix D;
Ensign, Jan 1985, page 16;
Times & Seasons, Vol 3, pages 706-707, March 1, 1842
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6. Early church leaders
Brigham Young, G.A.Smith,
John Taylor
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15 |
no |
1 Saw an angel, and asked the angel |
no |
no |
Join none |
See Journal of Discourses,
2:17;
18:239;
13:77, 78;
20:167;
12:333, 334.
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"We will form our OWN nation; and call it 'DESERET'!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Deseret