Posted on 01/15/2011 10:49:06 AM PST by RnMomof7
Yeah, pretty much.
There's your "trendy" problem. Robert Shelton. Deep down,.... he's shallow.
You guys must all have incredibly fragile faiths, to need to constantly do this. Yeah, people who leave a religion usually like to assert that they are still faithful to it. Protestants call themselves Christian, but not Catholic; now Yaquis call themselves Catholic but not Christian. At least I’ll acknowledge that Protestants kept the more crucial part of the notion of Catholic Christianity, but the notion you can separate them is simply fictitious.
The fact that syncretism exists among people who call themselves Catholic, but defy the Catholic Church shouldn’t be surprising. In the U.S., there are plenty of syncretic, Protestant sects, like Mormons, Branch Davidians, Unitarians, etc. Being a well-educated and wealthy country, they are few in number. Head down to Brazil, and you can encounter all sort of bizarre syncretic cults which regard themselves as Evangelical, Baptist, Protestant, “World Christian,” Reformed, Charismatic, Fundamentalist, you name it. Baptists will, of course, be the first to declare that such “Baptists” aren’t really Baptist, but who’s to say who’s right? The Brazilian Baptists will swear up and down that the American Baptists are the ones misinterpreting scripture. However, because of the concept of catholicity, we can objectively state which Catholics are upholding the basic tenets of Catholicism and which are not.
So the Yaquis are somewhat more Christian than the Aztecs, and less Christian than Pope Benedict. Are they saved? This article sure doesn’t make it sound like this guy is, but I really have little idea. But even he might get to Heaven long before Martin Luther or Cardinal Mahony.
Catholics go straight off the cliff worshiping everybody under the sun except God. Then they go to other cultures and teach them to do the same. Thus you get a “Catholic” believing it’s ok to pray to the winds, the four corners of the earth, the spirits, whatever. They cant tell the difference because no one has taught them properly. The Catholic church is just into numbers for whatever nefarious reasons it has in the Vatican. Like I said earlier, read 1 Kings and see how confused and wrong the people of God can become in 40 years.
‘In that day there was no King in Israel, so every man did what was right in his own eyes.’
Oh, I didn’t realize this was a “make stupid arguments against Catholics” thread.
RnMom was Catholic and now renounces it. This buffoon of a doctor commits some kind of apostasy. One is the fault of Catholicism, but the other isn’t?
The Tea Party caused the shootings, though thousands have heard the party and committed no murder. Prayers for the intercession of the saints caused this man’s vapid paganism, though millions have prayed to the saints and not become pagans.
Unreasoning anger leads to the dulling of the faculties of reason. Si indicium requires, circumspice.
Carry on. Far be it from me to come between an anti-Catholic and hatred.
It is not truth-telling that leads to this enmity. It is lies, anger, and thoughtless accusation
As an American Indian and a Christian, I have to tell you that not even half way through that idiots “prayer” I changed channels. That was the most esoteric blabber I have ever “almost” seen. Made me somewhat ashamed to be Indian. Now I will read this thread. I had to say this first.
Not sure where you got YOUR education, but if you had learned reading comprehension, you’d have noticed that the article states very clearly that Gonzales is an M.D., a Medical Doctor, not a clergyman. No seminary involved. His familiarity with Indian culture and Medicine Men is a byproduct of his medical education and practicing in AZ, where the Indian culture is rather dominant.
Unbelievable. Who better to lead the gathering in paganism than another pagan?
Bump.
RnMomof7: A prayer by an unsaved /lost man to a false god.
DUTCHBOY88: I cannot get enough distance between these two statements to reflect their real separation. The first displays the inevitable lunacy to which the Roman Cult leads. The second, the true biblical assessment of the paganism which captures Rome. Thank you, RnMomof7, for your wise words.
Amen!
Behold, they are all vanity; their works are nothing: their molten images are wind and confusion." -- Isaiah 41:28-29 "For I beheld, and there was no man; even among them, and there was no counsellor, that, when I asked of them, could answer a word.
Your tag is a riot. lol
It is interesting how much pandering is done by the papists to attempt to be “ecumencial”. Your people did not put this doofus up to it, so you have nothing to be ashamed about. His eyes are just darkened to the truth of Christ.
Blessings to you, my FRiend.
"For I beheld, and there was no man; even among them, and there was no counsellor, that, when I asked of them, could answer a word. Behold, they are all vanity; their works are nothing: their molten images are wind and confusion." -- Isaiah 41:28-29
And then our FRiend the good Dr. provides us those penetrating words of Isaiah. Their world is truly, "...wind and confusion." Thank you for the reminder that this is not the first time the God of Israel has seen such darkness and error. Grace to you.
Rome appears to be "ecumenical" towards everyone but Protestants whom they still anathematize.
Blessings to you, my FRiend.
Amen, fish hawk. God is glorified by your righteous witness.
They have rock the vote, I have glock the vote.
LOL!
/roll eyes.......
We do not bolster our faith by *attacking* others.
What do you expect us to do? Not tell the truth about this kind of paganism and where it leads?
With members like this, the Catholic church is in bigger trouble than it realizes.
But since he still claims to be Catholic, I'll bet he's *properly* catechized. After all, he still identifies as Catholic.
Yep. Never ceases to amaze: Romanists keep elevating the fantasy-number of Christian (non-Roman) denominations... what about all of the litte Roman Catholicities within the one behemoth?
That is a typical action on the part of a person who is hopelessly lost.
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