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Catholic Doctor Explains Native American Prayer He Delivered at Arizona Memorial
CNS News ^ | 01/15/2011 | Pete Winn

Posted on 01/15/2011 10:49:06 AM PST by RnMomof7

Dr. Carlos Gonzales delivering a Native American blessing at Wednesday's memorial service at the University of Arizona. (CNSNews.com) -

Wednesday night’s memorial service for the shooting victims in Tucson did not open with a prayer from a Jewish rabbi, a Protestant minister or a Catholic priest--it began with a Native American “blessing” that left many puzzled about what it meant and why it was performed.

The prayer, which did not use the word "God" and did not make the traditional request for God’s comfort for the bereaved that many might have expected, did mention the Creator and called for "honoring" the Seven Directions, including “Father Sky” and "Mother Earth”--and remembering our "fellow creatures" who "crawl on the earth” and “slither on the earth.”

The blessing was presented by Dr. Carlos Gonzales, an associate professor at the University of Arizona College of Medicine. “I was asked by the university to give a traditional Native American blessing,” Gonzales told CNSNews.com late Thursday. “This is the type of blessing that we give at memorial services to open up a ceremony. A medicine man will do a variation of it to open up a pow-wow. It’s basically a recognition of the powers of the seven directions and how they influence human beings--and how each direction has a certain characteristic; that when you pray to that direction, you ask for the inspiration that comes from that direction.”

The eight-minute oration Gonzales prayed Wednesday night before a crowd of more than 14,000 at the University of Arizona’s McKale Memorial Center may have sounded strange to many Americans. Holding an eagle feather, the physician and professor began by introducing himself--at length.

“On my mother’s side I am Mexican, a child of the descendents of a pioneer family from Mejico, that came in the 1800s. On my father’s side, I’m Yaqui, refugees from Mexico that escaped the genocide of the Pascua Yaqui in the 1800s. For myself, I am fifth generation in the valley of Tucson.”

Gonzales then gave honor to the various directions of the compass: “Let’s begin by honoring the eastern door, from where we get visions and guidance. May each of us get the vision and guidance to proceed in a good way,” Gonzales prayed. He also asked for strength from “Father Sky,” which he called the “masculine energy,” and “Mother Earth,” the “feminine energy.” “O Creator, may the two energies, the masculine energy and the feminine energy, come together in our center where the Creator exists. For each of us has a piece of the Creator. Please, you have given each of us a gift. May we use these gifts to help our fellow human beings,” he prayed.

Gonzales' prayer also mentioned ancestors and said "let us not forget our fellow creatures," including “those that stand,” “those that blow in the wind,” “those that are tall and stately,” “those that crawl on the earth,” and “those that slither on the earth” and “those that live under the Earth,” as well as two those who swim in water and fly in the sky.

In an interview Thursday with CNSNews.com, Gonzales explained the meaning behind what he was doing in the blessing. “The seven directions are basically the cardinal directions, Father Sky, which is up above us, and Mother Earth, which is down below us, and the seventh direction, which is the center, where the Creator exists,” he told CNSNews.com.

“It’s basically a way of acknowledging God’s Creation, and it’s a way of acknowledging by honoring those cardinal directions and what they have to say to us,” he added. “For example, the east is where the sun comes up in the morning, and as the sun comes up, it lights the path of the world, therefore the East is seen as having the power to guide us and to give us vision and to help us through as we walk on this earth.”

It would be a mistake, however, to call the Native American beliefs he was expressing a religion, Gonzales said.
“It’s not truly a religion, it’s more of a way of appreciating spirituality,” Gonzales told CNSNews.com. “I’m Yaqui and Yaquis have been Roman Catholics since 1650. We were one of the first tribes in Mexico to actually peacefully absorb Catholicism; however we have always practiced Catholicism in our own unique manner, incorporating traditional beliefs, and so I grew up as a Roman Catholic with a Yaqui variation.”

“In reality, I’m Catholic, but the spirituality I’ve come across with traditional healers is one of the most beautiful things I’ve seen, and it’s a way of approaching people and it’s an additional way of healing that has actually helped me to be a better family doc.”

None of the victims of the Tucson massacre were known to be Yaqui. Moreover, no rabbi, Catholic priest or Protestant minister, the known religions of the victims, was included in the memorial program.

Gonzales said the idea for a Native American blessing came from University of Arizona President Robert Shelton. “President Shelton has a Native American advisor here at the university to deal with American Indian health policies in Arizona, and he asked her if someone could come and do a traditional blessing,” Gonzales told CNSNews.com. “She’s heard me do these blessings before in other places, and so she recommended my name.”

The invitation to pray came late Tuesday, and he accepted. “The way we believe, and the traditional way, is that if somebody asks, you cannot refuse, so I accepted.”

Gonzales repeated that he is not a shaman or medicine man, and had to obtain permission from tribal elders to do what he did “I’m just a regular MD. I teach family medicine here at the College of Medicine, but what’s happened is that in my path towards getting a better appreciation of healing and healing knowledge, I’ve actually interacted with medicine men to see how they approach people who are ill and unwell. So I’ve learned a lot of their philosophy of healing and their philosophy of life,” he said. Gonzales, meanwhile, said the “Creator” he mentioned in the prayer is “whoever your particular denomination deems to be the important entity.”

“For Native Americans, it’s the Creator of the Universe,” Gonzales said. “In Christian denominations, it would be God.” A Different Reality

Dr. Angela Tarango, a religious studies scholar at Trinity University in San Antonio, Texas, explained that Gonzales’ prayer may have sounded strange to the uninitiated, but was actually very much in keeping with traditional Indian blessings.
“In traditional native religion, there is a sense that the world needs to be balanced,” she told CNSNews.com. “It needs to be in sync with everything. And when something terrible happens, it needs to be rebalanced properly.”

Tarango also defended Gonzales' lengthy autobiographical introduction by saying that traditional Native American culture demanded it.
“You have to do that in native culture. When you come in, you don’t just come in, not saying who you are. You have to say where you come from. Outsiders who work with native people understand this. They have to say, ‘I am so and so, and I am from so and so people.’ It’s a sense of what peoples you are from. There is no question, she said, that Native American spirituality is different. In it, one opens spiritual “doors” to go through to different “realities” in the natural world.
“In the native view of the world there is no heaven and no hell. So when you die, you go on to be with your ancestors in the next world, which is a lot like the world that you leave, but it’s a lot nicer, and you’re there with the spirits of your ancestors. That’s what he’s saying, that in some sense that the ancestors greeted the spirits of these people that passed away and have taken them into the spirit world,” she added.

Gonzales, meanwhile, said his invocation was simply a way “to bring positive energy into a gathering of that type.” “I wasn’t trying to give a lecture to anybody,” he said. “It was a prayer. It was simply a prayer.”


TOPICS: General Discusssion; Religion & Culture; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: arizona; confusion; fake; giffords; hoax; othergods
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“It was a prayer. It was simply a prayer.”

A prayer by an unsaved /lost man to a false god..

1 posted on 01/15/2011 10:49:09 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: 1000 silverlings; metmom; boatbums; Quix; Gamecock; count-your-change; Alex Murphy; Diamond; ...

This is the fruit of prayers to saints and Mary.. utter spiritual confusion leading to spiritual death


2 posted on 01/15/2011 10:50:37 AM PST by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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What a crazy world. None of the victims were of that religion, so that’s the one they use? Prayers to spirits and “directions”?

The libs are so utterly lost, they are unable to see how crazy the things they do are.


3 posted on 01/15/2011 10:55:19 AM PST by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: RnMomof7; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; count-your-change; ..

If you don’t stand for something, you’ll fall for anything.

That a supposed clergy member doesn’t recognize the spiritual implications of prayer to anyone or any thing but God does not speak well for the education he got in seminary.

I wonder if he ended with “And may the Force be with you”.


4 posted on 01/15/2011 10:55:41 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: RnMomof7

Had any of the victims been members of my family, I would have asked that the memorial service publicly exclude them. Liberals are sure to make a disgrace out of everything they touch.


5 posted on 01/15/2011 10:57:49 AM PST by pallis
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To: RnMomof7

evidence of the falling away, i am amazed at the speed in which it is happening!


6 posted on 01/15/2011 10:58:26 AM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: RnMomof7

“The blessing was presented by Dr. Carlos Gonzales, an associate professor at the University of Arizona College of Medicine.”

OMG...an associate professor in the college of medicine...???


7 posted on 01/15/2011 10:58:33 AM PST by choctaw man (Good ole Andrew Jackson, or You're the Reason God Made Oklahoma...)
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To: RnMomof7

Prayer?

Overlong,boring,vain,pagan,irrelevant and disrespectful,


8 posted on 01/15/2011 11:00:54 AM PST by Happy Rain
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To: RnMomof7; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; count-your-change; ..

The Beautiful Side of Evil by Johanna Michaelsen

http://www.amazon.com/Beautiful-Side-Evil-Johanna-Michaelsen/product-reviews/0890813221

A phenomenal read. It will change the way you think about spiritual matters. I need to get the book myself to own. I read it when I borrowed it from someone.

It is absolutely impossible to mix spiritism and Christianity.


9 posted on 01/15/2011 11:04:38 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: RnMomof7
A Yaqui. How trendy. They have a very strange syncretic form of "Catholicism" including the ritual use of drugs and some exotic Easter rituals.

Anybody know if there were any Indians killed last Saturday?

10 posted on 01/15/2011 11:05:00 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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feminine masculine energy? It sounds like that is as much new age stuff as native.I suspect a good dollop of it he made up on the spot.College professor - new age ritual, peas in a pod.Does he have a skull in his back yard?


11 posted on 01/15/2011 11:05:30 AM PST by sanjoaquinvalley (Longtime Lady Lurker)
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To: RnMomof7
Gonzales then gave honor to the various directions of the compass: “Let’s begin by honoring the eastern door, from where we get visions and guidance. May each of us get the vision and guidance to proceed in a good way,” Gonzales prayed. He also asked for strength from “Father Sky,” which he called the “masculine energy,” and “Mother Earth,” the “feminine energy.” “O Creator, may the two energies, the masculine energy and the feminine energy, come together in our center where the Creator exists. For each of us has a piece of the Creator. Please, you have given each of us a gift. May we use these gifts to help our fellow human beings,” he prayed.

For anyone who read the Left Behind series, this could have been pulled right out of it.

12 posted on 01/15/2011 11:06:52 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: RnMomof7

The Catholic church is in bigger trouble than it realizes with parishioners like this.


13 posted on 01/15/2011 11:08:36 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: RnMomof7

Wonder why they didn’t have Captain Lone Starr from Spaceballs share some cosmic insight?


14 posted on 01/15/2011 11:10:32 AM PST by Mobilemitter (We must learn to fin >-)> for ourselves.........)
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To: RnMomof7

You better run and tell the author of the next prayer thread that he’s killing everyone’s souls.

Be sure to tell everyone that asking for prayers is “utter spiritual confusion leading to spiritual death”.

Let us know how you get on.


15 posted on 01/15/2011 11:11:42 AM PST by agere_contra (The Left has 'expanded its moral imagination' ever since the 1800s - always with horrifying results)
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To: RnMomof7

I was curious about this. I have seen non-denom or even split prayers [offered by different clergy] offered in situations like this when those being remembered were of different faiths.


16 posted on 01/15/2011 11:11:42 AM PST by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: RnMomof7

This makes me want to puke.


17 posted on 01/15/2011 11:11:57 AM PST by naturalized
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To: metmom

I had a hard time believing that this man is actually a professor of medicine and a sort of medicine man as well.

When mens eyes are not on Christ, but wander in other directions..they become apostate .

Thus he danger of all the “veneration “ in this guys religious history . It is not hard to move from saints to the 4 winds or what ever


18 posted on 01/15/2011 11:13:32 AM PST by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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To: metmom

A ‘Catholic parishioner’ especially selected by Obama to pray at an event organised by the hard left was never going to be anything but a CINO.

It’s like being shocked by Nancy Pelosi - don’t be. She’s a nominal Catholic, and so’s this guy.


19 posted on 01/15/2011 11:16:33 AM PST by agere_contra (The Left has 'expanded its moral imagination' ever since the 1800s - always with horrifying results)
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To: RnMomof7

I worked with Pasqua Yaquis at San Manuel mine. They were Catholic. This guy was playing “Ward Churchill” to the Progressive Gringos.


20 posted on 01/15/2011 11:18:10 AM PST by JimSEA
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