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To: 1000 silverlings; metmom; boatbums; Quix; Gamecock; count-your-change; Alex Murphy; Diamond; ...

This is the fruit of prayers to saints and Mary.. utter spiritual confusion leading to spiritual death


2 posted on 01/15/2011 10:50:37 AM PST by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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To: RnMomof7; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; count-your-change; ..

If you don’t stand for something, you’ll fall for anything.

That a supposed clergy member doesn’t recognize the spiritual implications of prayer to anyone or any thing but God does not speak well for the education he got in seminary.

I wonder if he ended with “And may the Force be with you”.


4 posted on 01/15/2011 10:55:41 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: RnMomof7

You better run and tell the author of the next prayer thread that he’s killing everyone’s souls.

Be sure to tell everyone that asking for prayers is “utter spiritual confusion leading to spiritual death”.

Let us know how you get on.


15 posted on 01/15/2011 11:11:42 AM PST by agere_contra (The Left has 'expanded its moral imagination' ever since the 1800s - always with horrifying results)
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To: 1000 silverlings; metmom; boatbums; Quix; Gamecock; count-your-change; Alex Murphy; Diamond

You guys must all have incredibly fragile faiths, to need to constantly do this. Yeah, people who leave a religion usually like to assert that they are still faithful to it. Protestants call themselves Christian, but not Catholic; now Yaquis call themselves Catholic but not Christian. At least I’ll acknowledge that Protestants kept the more crucial part of the notion of Catholic Christianity, but the notion you can separate them is simply fictitious.

The fact that syncretism exists among people who call themselves Catholic, but defy the Catholic Church shouldn’t be surprising. In the U.S., there are plenty of syncretic, Protestant sects, like Mormons, Branch Davidians, Unitarians, etc. Being a well-educated and wealthy country, they are few in number. Head down to Brazil, and you can encounter all sort of bizarre syncretic cults which regard themselves as Evangelical, Baptist, Protestant, “World Christian,” Reformed, Charismatic, Fundamentalist, you name it. Baptists will, of course, be the first to declare that such “Baptists” aren’t really Baptist, but who’s to say who’s right? The Brazilian Baptists will swear up and down that the American Baptists are the ones misinterpreting scripture. However, because of the concept of catholicity, we can objectively state which Catholics are upholding the basic tenets of Catholicism and which are not.

So the Yaquis are somewhat more Christian than the Aztecs, and less Christian than Pope Benedict. Are they saved? This article sure doesn’t make it sound like this guy is, but I really have little idea. But even he might get to Heaven long before Martin Luther or Cardinal Mahony.


43 posted on 01/15/2011 12:53:12 PM PST by dangus ("The floor of Hell is paved with the skulls of bishops" -- St. John Crysostom ("the Golden-Mouthed"))
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To: RnMomof7

Oh, I didn’t realize this was a “make stupid arguments against Catholics” thread.

RnMom was Catholic and now renounces it. This buffoon of a doctor commits some kind of apostasy. One is the fault of Catholicism, but the other isn’t?

The Tea Party caused the shootings, though thousands have heard the party and committed no murder. Prayers for the intercession of the saints caused this man’s vapid paganism, though millions have prayed to the saints and not become pagans.

Unreasoning anger leads to the dulling of the faculties of reason. Si indicium requires, circumspice.

Carry on. Far be it from me to come between an anti-Catholic and hatred.

It is not truth-telling that leads to this enmity. It is lies, anger, and thoughtless accusation


46 posted on 01/15/2011 1:08:11 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: RnMomof7

Bump.


50 posted on 01/15/2011 2:24:00 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: RnMomof7

Yep. Never ceases to amaze: Romanists keep elevating the fantasy-number of Christian (non-Roman) denominations... what about all of the litte Roman Catholicities within the one behemoth?


59 posted on 01/15/2011 2:49:47 PM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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