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Catholic Doctor Explains Native American Prayer He Delivered at Arizona Memorial
CNS News ^ | 01/15/2011 | Pete Winn

Posted on 01/15/2011 10:49:06 AM PST by RnMomof7

Dr. Carlos Gonzales delivering a Native American blessing at Wednesday's memorial service at the University of Arizona. (CNSNews.com) -

Wednesday night’s memorial service for the shooting victims in Tucson did not open with a prayer from a Jewish rabbi, a Protestant minister or a Catholic priest--it began with a Native American “blessing” that left many puzzled about what it meant and why it was performed.

The prayer, which did not use the word "God" and did not make the traditional request for God’s comfort for the bereaved that many might have expected, did mention the Creator and called for "honoring" the Seven Directions, including “Father Sky” and "Mother Earth”--and remembering our "fellow creatures" who "crawl on the earth” and “slither on the earth.”

The blessing was presented by Dr. Carlos Gonzales, an associate professor at the University of Arizona College of Medicine. “I was asked by the university to give a traditional Native American blessing,” Gonzales told CNSNews.com late Thursday. “This is the type of blessing that we give at memorial services to open up a ceremony. A medicine man will do a variation of it to open up a pow-wow. It’s basically a recognition of the powers of the seven directions and how they influence human beings--and how each direction has a certain characteristic; that when you pray to that direction, you ask for the inspiration that comes from that direction.”

The eight-minute oration Gonzales prayed Wednesday night before a crowd of more than 14,000 at the University of Arizona’s McKale Memorial Center may have sounded strange to many Americans. Holding an eagle feather, the physician and professor began by introducing himself--at length.

“On my mother’s side I am Mexican, a child of the descendents of a pioneer family from Mejico, that came in the 1800s. On my father’s side, I’m Yaqui, refugees from Mexico that escaped the genocide of the Pascua Yaqui in the 1800s. For myself, I am fifth generation in the valley of Tucson.”

Gonzales then gave honor to the various directions of the compass: “Let’s begin by honoring the eastern door, from where we get visions and guidance. May each of us get the vision and guidance to proceed in a good way,” Gonzales prayed. He also asked for strength from “Father Sky,” which he called the “masculine energy,” and “Mother Earth,” the “feminine energy.” “O Creator, may the two energies, the masculine energy and the feminine energy, come together in our center where the Creator exists. For each of us has a piece of the Creator. Please, you have given each of us a gift. May we use these gifts to help our fellow human beings,” he prayed.

Gonzales' prayer also mentioned ancestors and said "let us not forget our fellow creatures," including “those that stand,” “those that blow in the wind,” “those that are tall and stately,” “those that crawl on the earth,” and “those that slither on the earth” and “those that live under the Earth,” as well as two those who swim in water and fly in the sky.

In an interview Thursday with CNSNews.com, Gonzales explained the meaning behind what he was doing in the blessing. “The seven directions are basically the cardinal directions, Father Sky, which is up above us, and Mother Earth, which is down below us, and the seventh direction, which is the center, where the Creator exists,” he told CNSNews.com.

“It’s basically a way of acknowledging God’s Creation, and it’s a way of acknowledging by honoring those cardinal directions and what they have to say to us,” he added. “For example, the east is where the sun comes up in the morning, and as the sun comes up, it lights the path of the world, therefore the East is seen as having the power to guide us and to give us vision and to help us through as we walk on this earth.”

It would be a mistake, however, to call the Native American beliefs he was expressing a religion, Gonzales said.
“It’s not truly a religion, it’s more of a way of appreciating spirituality,” Gonzales told CNSNews.com. “I’m Yaqui and Yaquis have been Roman Catholics since 1650. We were one of the first tribes in Mexico to actually peacefully absorb Catholicism; however we have always practiced Catholicism in our own unique manner, incorporating traditional beliefs, and so I grew up as a Roman Catholic with a Yaqui variation.”

“In reality, I’m Catholic, but the spirituality I’ve come across with traditional healers is one of the most beautiful things I’ve seen, and it’s a way of approaching people and it’s an additional way of healing that has actually helped me to be a better family doc.”

None of the victims of the Tucson massacre were known to be Yaqui. Moreover, no rabbi, Catholic priest or Protestant minister, the known religions of the victims, was included in the memorial program.

Gonzales said the idea for a Native American blessing came from University of Arizona President Robert Shelton. “President Shelton has a Native American advisor here at the university to deal with American Indian health policies in Arizona, and he asked her if someone could come and do a traditional blessing,” Gonzales told CNSNews.com. “She’s heard me do these blessings before in other places, and so she recommended my name.”

The invitation to pray came late Tuesday, and he accepted. “The way we believe, and the traditional way, is that if somebody asks, you cannot refuse, so I accepted.”

Gonzales repeated that he is not a shaman or medicine man, and had to obtain permission from tribal elders to do what he did “I’m just a regular MD. I teach family medicine here at the College of Medicine, but what’s happened is that in my path towards getting a better appreciation of healing and healing knowledge, I’ve actually interacted with medicine men to see how they approach people who are ill and unwell. So I’ve learned a lot of their philosophy of healing and their philosophy of life,” he said. Gonzales, meanwhile, said the “Creator” he mentioned in the prayer is “whoever your particular denomination deems to be the important entity.”

“For Native Americans, it’s the Creator of the Universe,” Gonzales said. “In Christian denominations, it would be God.” A Different Reality

Dr. Angela Tarango, a religious studies scholar at Trinity University in San Antonio, Texas, explained that Gonzales’ prayer may have sounded strange to the uninitiated, but was actually very much in keeping with traditional Indian blessings.
“In traditional native religion, there is a sense that the world needs to be balanced,” she told CNSNews.com. “It needs to be in sync with everything. And when something terrible happens, it needs to be rebalanced properly.”

Tarango also defended Gonzales' lengthy autobiographical introduction by saying that traditional Native American culture demanded it.
“You have to do that in native culture. When you come in, you don’t just come in, not saying who you are. You have to say where you come from. Outsiders who work with native people understand this. They have to say, ‘I am so and so, and I am from so and so people.’ It’s a sense of what peoples you are from. There is no question, she said, that Native American spirituality is different. In it, one opens spiritual “doors” to go through to different “realities” in the natural world.
“In the native view of the world there is no heaven and no hell. So when you die, you go on to be with your ancestors in the next world, which is a lot like the world that you leave, but it’s a lot nicer, and you’re there with the spirits of your ancestors. That’s what he’s saying, that in some sense that the ancestors greeted the spirits of these people that passed away and have taken them into the spirit world,” she added.

Gonzales, meanwhile, said his invocation was simply a way “to bring positive energy into a gathering of that type.” “I wasn’t trying to give a lecture to anybody,” he said. “It was a prayer. It was simply a prayer.”


TOPICS: General Discusssion; Religion & Culture; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: arizona; confusion; fake; giffords; hoax; othergods
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To: RnMomof7

Sadly, I know a few Catholics who go to mass every week, who also don’t truly believe the gospel is accurate. To them religion is a mind altering experience, not a spirit altering one. In fact, they are the same thing. Thus, anything that brings the mind “peace”, whether real or imagined, is okay.


21 posted on 01/15/2011 11:19:01 AM PST by TruthBeforeAll (To a liberal, if an idea is a complete & utter disaster, it's only because there's not enough of it.)
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To: RnMomof7

Strange-very strange for the souls of those who believe in the saving grace of Jesus Christ. For others still very strange.


22 posted on 01/15/2011 11:21:11 AM PST by noinfringers2
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To: RnMomof7
Catholic Doctor Breaks Wind in 7 Directions

for fellow creatures that blow in the wind,”

23 posted on 01/15/2011 11:21:26 AM PST by bunkerhill7
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To: bunkerhill7

:)


24 posted on 01/15/2011 11:24:22 AM PST by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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To: RnMomof7
we have always practiced Catholicism in our own unique manner, incorporating traditional beliefs

To the extent you augment or dilute Catholicism, you ain't Catholic, dude.

25 posted on 01/15/2011 11:25:08 AM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: RnMomof7

26 posted on 01/15/2011 11:36:05 AM PST by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: naturalized

Actually, I was more offended by “Big SIS” Napalitano’s reading of a bible verse that was completely out of context for any memorial service. Oh wait, I mean pep rally. I’ll be willing to bet she just flipped through a borrowed bible and saw the first thing she thought would sound good.


27 posted on 01/15/2011 11:50:25 AM PST by Shellback Chuck
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To: RnMomof7; Dr. Eckleburg; metmom; wmfights; the_conscience; Quix
one of the lessons that we learn from the bible is that it doesnt take long for a nation to collapse once it goes away from following God. David's kingdom was taken away after Solomon sinned, God took 10 tribes from Solomon's son and left him two. In no time at all the ten tribes were worshiping spirits in the forest and making up a religion.

Then their leaders get worse and worse, becoming antiChrists. Read 1 Kings.

28 posted on 01/15/2011 11:58:00 AM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: steve86

agreed, but what we are witnessing is the great falling away prophesized in the Bible to happen right before the end of time. it didn’t happen in the 1st century, nor the 4th, 9th, 16th, but if what we are witnessing is not the great falling away, i don’t know what it is!!


29 posted on 01/15/2011 11:59:17 AM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: RnMomof7

If you want a laugh-read Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals—I have. Alinsky hated everybody, and one thing that stands out was his utter contempt for minorities—they were indeed, for him “useful idiots”—Rules was for his white Commie acolytes—among other things a primer for them in dealing with/using/exploiting blacks, Latinos, etc-Alinsky’s cynicism and contempt shines through—along with a fair share of truth-he had experience dealing with all kinds of people, and he wasn’t stupid. He was quite perceptive about a lot of things.

In one hilarious story he recounts his calling out some Indian leaders on their bullcrap they try to lay on him. Beautiful.


30 posted on 01/15/2011 12:03:49 PM PST by Capogiro
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To: hinckley buzzard
A Yaqui. How trendy.

A Muslim would have been too... obvious.
31 posted on 01/15/2011 12:04:07 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: 1000 silverlings; RnMomof7; Dr. Eckleburg; metmom; wmfights; the_conscience; Quix
Then their leaders get worse and worse, becoming antiChrists. Read 1 Kings.

Wonderful point.

The technology changes. The ability to communicate quickly changes. However, the basic behavior doesn't change. Every time we deviate from God's instructions you can see the mess it creates. What's stunning is we keep doing it.

32 posted on 01/15/2011 12:04:08 PM PST by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: Shellback Chuck

Interesting article at the link;

http://www.examiner.com/holy-spirit-in-national/napolitano-delivers-odd-bible-verse-at-memorial-for-shooting-victims


33 posted on 01/15/2011 12:06:32 PM PST by Shellback Chuck
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To: RnMomof7

Makes sense to me. Words from the Holy Bible were quoted by state officials and read from notebooks, not Bibles.

Doesn’t everyone do this and not even mention the words ‘Holy Bible’? Or the book and verse reference?

But the Doctor is catholic. Let’s make sure to look up what the word means with a small ‘c.’


34 posted on 01/15/2011 12:09:06 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: 1000 silverlings

ABSOLUTELY INDEED.


35 posted on 01/15/2011 12:19:40 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: combat_boots

36 posted on 01/15/2011 12:25:45 PM PST by WaterBoard
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To: RnMomof7

FWIW, I tuned in late — and tuned out not long after — but I did hear the reading from the Old Testament and the reading of one of the Epistles from the New Testament (I believe it was Corinthians).


37 posted on 01/15/2011 12:29:12 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: RnMomof7
Wait and see what happens when PETA finds out this guy has been plucking feathers off eagles.

NA-HEY-YA-HEY-YA-HEY-YA! ---NA-HEY-YA-HEY-YA-HEY-YA!

38 posted on 01/15/2011 12:30:34 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks.)
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To: RnMomof7; Dr. Eckleburg; Forest Keeper; Gamecock; HarleyD; fish hawk; Alex Murphy; wmfights; ...
“It was a prayer. It was simply a prayer.”

A prayer by an unsaved /lost man to a false god.

I cannot get enough distance between these two statements to reflect their real separation. The first displays the inevitable lunacy to which the Roman Cult leads. The second, the true biblical assessment of the paganism which captures Rome. Thank you, RnMomof7, for your wise words.

39 posted on 01/15/2011 12:35:53 PM PST by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88; Dr. Eckleburg; metmom; Quix

I’ve seen one Native American Catholic church. It’s in the shape of the medicine wheel, has all Native American decor, stations of the cross, etc. Hard to tell what they were supposed to be worshiping


40 posted on 01/15/2011 12:44:39 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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