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The Not So Secret Rapture
reformed.org ^ | W. Fred Rice

Posted on 01/14/2011 5:57:52 PM PST by topcat54

Evangelical book catalogs promote books such as Planet Earth: The Final Chapter, The Great Escape, and the Left Behind series. Bumper stickers warn us that the vehicle’s occupants may disappear at any moment. It is clear that there is a preoccupation with the idea of a secret rapture. Perhaps this has become more pronounced recently due to the expectation of a new millennium and the fears regarding potential Y2K problems. Perhaps psychologically people are especially receptive to the idea of an imminent, secret rapture at the present time. Additionally, many Christians are not aware that any other position relative to the second coming of Jesus Christ exists. Even in Reformed circles there are numerous people reading these books. Many of these people are unaware that this viewpoint conflicts with Scripture and Reformed Theology.

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TOPICS: Theology
KEYWORDS: crusades; endtimes; eschatology; rapture
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To: Alamo-Girl

Are there a handful of html codes I could learn to create a table of contents and pages to click to for my FR home page?

It’s getting pretty ungainly! LOL.

I think 80-90% of it is great posts I’ve archived there of yours. But they need organized etc.


2,501 posted on 02/01/2011 8:43:28 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix
To do pages, you'd have to store the information elsewhere on the internet and hotlink from your profile page.

To do a table of contents where each item hot links to another place on the same page, try this html code (without the ^)

In the table of contents:

<^A HREF^=^#Fruits^>^Fruits of the Spirit post by MarySecretary<^/A^>

And in the body, where that section begins:

<^A NAME^="Fruits"^><^/A^>


2,502 posted on 02/01/2011 9:02:12 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Quix
I'm sorry, I forgot to say thank you for your encouragements, dear brother in Christ!
2,503 posted on 02/01/2011 9:03:34 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

THANKS BIG.

Saving to my boilerplate Word file.


2,504 posted on 02/01/2011 9:05:13 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Alamo-Girl

No sweat.

Thx tons.

You normally encourage me in a list of ways . . .

by living, breathing, posting Holy Spirit wisdom, understanding me, penguins, . . .


2,505 posted on 02/01/2011 9:08:02 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: count-your-change
Just makes a person long for the “good old days”.

Yeah. So I hear.

2,506 posted on 02/01/2011 9:08:30 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Quix
Penguins?! ..... LOLOL! You are an encouragement to me also, dear brother in Christ!
2,507 posted on 02/01/2011 9:11:30 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: metmom

Amen!!!


2,508 posted on 02/01/2011 9:18:12 AM PST by investigateworld (Free Traders don't need guns 'cause they know The Peoples Republic of China are their friends)
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To: Cronos
Reject your man-made teachings.

Not knowing the difference between God's Word and 'man's' - Kissing the ring, and bowing to red slippers sure has it's consequences for ANTI-Word Catholics.
2,509 posted on 02/01/2011 9:23:31 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Cronos

Believe whatever you want but they have been thrown out of countries in the past for what they have done by infiltrating and starting trouble because of their agenda.

The Secret History of the Jesuits
http://arcticbeacon.com/books/Paris-The_Secret_History_of_Jesuits%281975%29.pdf

Written by a former Jesuit Priest


2,510 posted on 02/01/2011 9:31:24 AM PST by Lera
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To: Cronos
Nobody starts a war and not invite the Irish!
2,511 posted on 02/01/2011 9:39:35 AM PST by investigateworld (Free Traders don't need guns 'cause they know The Peoples Republic of China are their friends)
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To: metmom; Cronos
So maybe you could explain why you whine about non-Catholics misrepresenting the teachings of the Catholic church after that little diatribe.

Sounds like someone trying to play pope, IMO. " I'll tell you where you are wrong in spite of what you know or see " - CONTROL!
2,512 posted on 02/01/2011 9:45:14 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: kosta50; Alamo-Girl; spirited irish; xzins; HarleyD; James C. Bennett; YHAOS; MHGinTN; metmom; ...
Now, you may wish to believe otherwise, but your Bible says it's not your will or choice.

Evidently on your reading, dear kosta: You read the scriptures as if they were legal documents, challenging the authority of every line, setting yourself up as the ultimate arbiter of the meaning of the text....

I don't read them that way. To me they are the Word of God and thus of unquestionable authority. They are His self-revelation to us, "told truly, though not exhaustively."

So I don't know how we "get on the same page," kosta dear.

BTW, it's not "my" Bible. It is THE Bible.

2,513 posted on 02/01/2011 9:50:48 AM PST by betty boop (Seek truth and beauty together; you will never find them apart. — F. M. Cornford)
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To: Lera

THANKS MUCH.

Good one.


2,514 posted on 02/01/2011 9:51:46 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: betty boop
Indeed. Thank you so much for sharing your insights, dearest sister in Christ!
2,515 posted on 02/01/2011 9:59:41 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Cronos

http://www.google.com/images?q=hitler+and+the+pope&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=p0pITZuVO4-tgQei3oTwBQ&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=3&ved=0CDMQsAQwAg&biw=1280&bih=802


2,516 posted on 02/01/2011 10:11:56 AM PST by Lera
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To: HossB86

LOL!!! In a word-NO! :O)


2,517 posted on 02/01/2011 10:34:32 AM PST by HarleyD
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To: Cronos; spirited irish; Alamo-Girl; xzins; HarleyD; kosta50; MarkBsnr
After the dedication, Lewis has two quotes, both mocking the devil....

Might as well put up the quotes!

"The best way to drive out the devil, if he will not yield to texts of Scripture, is to jeer and flout him, for he cannot bear scorn." — Martin Luther

"The devil . . . the prowde spirite ... cannot endure to be mocked." — Thomas More

Thank you so very much for your insights, Cronos — especially your points (2) and (3):

"Of course the key theme is that we can fall into two extremes that are error-prone: denying demons exist or getting obsessed with them."

Seems to me demons do exist; and the best way to deal with them is as Luther and More direct: Simply dismiss them by ridicule. This saves one from "obsessing" about them....

Free will in action.

2,518 posted on 02/01/2011 10:40:08 AM PST by betty boop (Seek truth and beauty together; you will never find them apart. — F. M. Cornford)
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To: Cronos

I would like to address more than one post here, regarding what i see as as broad brushing and or mischaracterizations. But I cannot presently get into this in an extended way now and would first like to ask some questions .

1. Do you deny that the blood (atonement) of Christ became the instrument of atonement for the sins of all men?

2. Do you believe that at conversion one is forgiven of all sins and the heart purified by faith?

3. Do you believe that the atonement of Christ continues to enable cleansing of sin, upon repentance and faith?

4. Do you believe that historic Protestant faith overall minimized personal sin and piety?

5. Do you believe evangelicals overall evidence less commitment and uniformity to moral values than Catholics overall?

6. Do you believe most evangelicals today are Calvinists or Arminians?


2,519 posted on 02/01/2011 10:48:00 AM PST by daniel1212 ( "Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out," Acts 3:19)
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To: Alamo-Girl; MarkBsnr; Quix; investigateworld; betty boop; HarleyD; Iscool; Alex Murphy; Gamecock; ..
MARKBSNR: Is not satan more powerful than any man?

Wow. Do you truly believe that? Does the RCC teach that? A man with God is stronger than any army, as Alamo Girl's verses confirm.

What was Paul's job given to him by Christ?

"To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me." -- Acts 26:18

And Paul did not fail. Paul succeeded.

"...that through death (Jesus) might destroy him that had the power of death, that is the devil: And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage." -- Hebrews 2:14-15.

Sin no longer has power over us.

"For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace." -- Romans 6:14

As believers, we are God's children and have power over the flesh, the world and Satan.

"For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus." -- Galatians 3: 26.

Just as Christ surmounted Satan, so do we because of Christ within us.

"Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world." -- 1 John 4:17


" For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God." -- Colossians 3:3

Christians have this confidence. In fact, with Christ any temptation is not too great to withstand...

"There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it." -- 1 Corinthians 10:13

MARKBSNR: It took all that Jesus had to withstand satan, no?

No. 1) There was never any possibility that Christ could fail against Satan (or all our Christianity would be a lie.)

And 2) Christ was contending with Satan for all His sheep. Just consider how much sin that entails. It is beneficial to us to see that resisting the devil by atoning for sins is not such an easy task. And yet, Jesus did just that, thereby increasing our gratitude of His work on the cross and leading us to glorify God all the more.

ALAMO GIRL: If it had been someone from another Christian “label” who found the bakery shop kids, built the church and baptized us, I’d probably be wearing a different label today. LOLOL!

As it is my "letter" has always been in a Baptist church, though that point is meaningless to me because at the root, I will always be that bakery shop kid – a Christian, plain and simple.

lolol. AMEN! Cupcakes for a cupcake. 8~)

Your anecdote from the other thread is just beautiful - "that bakery shop kid."

As our merciful, gracious God wills.

2,520 posted on 02/01/2011 11:14:48 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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