It's About The Real Presence [Michael Voris video]

You Tube / Real Catholic TV ^ | 1-11-11 | Michael Voris

[mlizzy]

In our continuing look at what to do about the dissenters in the Church, we suggest that faithful Catholics go right to the 'source'.

[mlizzy]

Bravo, Mr. Voris!

[notaliberal]

Excellent!

[verdugo]

Very good, right on the spot!

Perhaps though, Christ is not really present in those churches where the priests do not believe in the real presence? Where the laity never go to confession and always go to communion.

Eugene Cardinal Pacelli in 1931, the future Pope Pius XII. It’s profoundly prophetic and worth quoting and full:

“I am worried by the Blessed Virgin’s messages to Lucy of Fatima. This persistence of Mary about the dangers which menace the Church is a Divine warning against the suicide of altering the Faith, in Her liturgy, Her theology and Her soul...I hear all around me innovators who wish to dismantle the Sacred Chapel, destroy the universal flame of the true Faith of the Church, reject Her ornaments and make Her feel remorse for Her historical past.”

“A day will come when the civilized world will deny its God, when the Church will doubt as Peter doubted. She will be tempted to believe that man has become God. In our churches, Christians will search in vain for the red lamp where God awaits them. Like Mary Magdalene, weeping before the empty tomb, they will ask, ‘Where have they taken Him?’”

[sayuncledave]

Absolutely outstanding!

For those interested, may I suggest a presentation I found on youtube, called The Passion of the Catholic Church? It’s a very poignant look at the progressive treatment of the Church in some areas. A wonderful, and sad, look.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZsOnkTk1RI

[mlizzy]

Thank you very much for the quote from Eugene Cardinal Pacelli. I'm going to add that to one of our sites.

A friend of ours was concerned whether the Host received at our parish was True, and my BIL, "the priest," said as long as the priest is saying the correct words at the Consecration, then Jesus is Live in the Bread.

It's a concern people shouldn't have to think about at Mass, but unfortunately (and I understood why), our friend felt it necessary to question.

[Salvation]

Beautiful.

[Salvation]

Even though the priest’s belief might falter for awhile, the Sacrament is still valid.

[Salvation]

**“A day will come when the civilized world will deny its God, when the Church will doubt as Peter doubted. She will be tempted to believe that man has become God. In our churches, Christians will search in vain for the red lamp where God awaits them. Like Mary Magdalene, weeping before the empty tomb, they will ask, ‘Where have they taken Him?’”**

Great, yet terrorizing, quote.

[Pyro7480]

In our churches, Christians will search in vain for the red lamp where God awaits them. Like Mary Magdalene, weeping before the empty tomb, they will ask, ‘Where have they taken Him?’”

By that times, Pacelli had already witnessed the rise of Bolshevism in Russia and the wholesale closure of churches in Catholic Mexico, so he had any idea of what that was like.

When the atheist president of Mexico, Plutarco Calles, signed the "Law for Reforming the Penal Code," which made wearing clerical garb in public a criminal offense, along with authorizing seizures of church property, expelling all foreign priests, and closing the monasteries, the Mexican bishops suspended all public worship. In one place, after the last Mass was offered, a sign which said "he is not here" was hung on the tabernacle.

[verdugo]

re: By that times, Pacelli had already witnessed the rise of Bolshevism in Russia and the wholesale closure of churches in Catholic Mexico, so he had an idea of what that was like....In one place, after the last Mass was offered, a sign which said "he is not here" was hung on the tabernacle.

Those things were nothing new, it had been done many times through history, the Protestants, and the French Revolutionists are two examples. No, that was not what he meant, for Pacelli was quite precise, he said:

"Divine warning against the suicide of altering the Faith, in Her liturgy, Her theology and Her soul...I hear all around me innovators who wish to dismantle the Sacred Chapel, destroy the universal flame of the true Faith of the Church, reject Her ornaments and make Her feel remorse for Her historical past.” Take note that he heard ALL AROUND HIM (In 1931!) innovators wanting to alter the Faith, the liturgy, theology, and the soul of the Church. Innovators that want to dismantle the Sacred Chapel, destroy the true Faith of the Church, reject Her ornaments and make Her feel remorse for Her historical past.

[verdugo]

If the priest is not validly ordained, does not have the proper matter, form and intention, the consecration can be invalid.

Matter is : wine made ONLY from grapes (not peaches or other fruits), and wheat bread (not bread made from yuca, corn etc)

Form - Proper sacrificial words of consecration as approved by the Church

Intention - the priest has to have the intention of consecrating

In our times, I would avoid priests who are liberals in the Catholic sense, improvisers, who have no respect for tradition. They are more likely to not have the proper intention.By their deeds you shall know them.