Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

To: EAGLE7

My experience is that it is 20% biblical and 80% ritual and I’ve attended several masses including sects such as St. Pious X, etc..

In fact, I know of few Catholics who read their bible let alone carry one to church.

Not bashing here, just a factual observation.


6 posted on 01/04/2011 4:49:49 AM PST by TSgt (Colonel Allen West & Michele Bachman - 2012 POTUS Dream Team Ticket!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies ]


To: TSgt

I agree, from a former Catholic.


7 posted on 01/04/2011 4:51:57 AM PST by kingpins10
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies ]

To: TSgt

Respectfully, TSgt, we follow, and listen to, the Word of God. That includes the Holy Bible, Sacred Tradition, and the Magisterium of the Church. My Bible’s here at work with me, every day. And at both Novus Ordo and Tridentine Latin Masses, we have multiple readings from the Bible, and most prayers are directly of and from the Bible. Not attacking, just trying to enlighten, respectfully. Have a good morning, FRiend.


10 posted on 01/04/2011 5:08:17 AM PST by sayuncledave (A cruce salus)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies ]

To: TSgt

There are some parts of Roman Catholic dogma, including the infallibility of the Bishop of Rome, which would keep me, in good conscience, from becoming a Roman Catholic. Frankly, in some respects I would be more at home in the Greek Orthodox Church. But I certainly consider Catholics to be my brothers and sisters in Christ. Many of them may not feel the same about Orthodox and Protestant Christians, and I believe “their way or the highway” is a tenet Rome still teaches, but so be it. I would rather see us all united against the real enemy, in all his many faces and forms.


12 posted on 01/04/2011 5:37:47 AM PST by katana
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies ]

To: TSgt
My experience is that it is 20% biblical and 80% ritual and I’ve attended several masses including sects such as St. Pious X, etc..

Mass is not meant to be a Bible study, and it's not a "sermon sandwich." Most healthy parishes have Bible studies going on, adult religious ed, etc. There are also some very fine audio Bible studies (college-level stuff) by Scott Hahn and others.

Mass is worship. If you're used to an evangelical service, it's no wonder it seems like "80% ritual". It's really "100% prayer". Good liturgy is supposed to be like a visit to heaven. You're there to pray, not so much to learn (in the sense of "acquire information").

In fact, I know of few Catholics who read their bible

Bible reading is strongly encouraged by the church. Maybe the Catholics you know simply aren't being obedient to the teachings of their faith. That's not really the Church's fault, is it?

let alone carry one to church

OTOH, there's not much reason to carry a Bible to Mass, since the readings are in the Missal, already excerpted so you don't have to flip pages to find them. (And yes, the chapter-and-verse citations are there, too, if you want to look up the context.)

13 posted on 01/04/2011 5:48:09 AM PST by Campion
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies ]

To: TSgt

Ever mass, which are celebrated on every day of the week, contains one old and new testament section along with a gospel reading. Yes, there may be many Catholics who have not fulfilled their obligations to constantly seek the truth, but as you will note on this post an many others there are many Catholics that do read and understand much of the bible.
As for 20% / 80% you might be surprised at how far off that is, but until you research it on your own all you will have is just a guess.
A great place to start is with some Catholic Apologetic info, which will give much of the biblical and Apocalyptic church teachings, which is the rock(Peter) the church is built on.


82 posted on 01/04/2011 9:37:19 AM PST by jafojeffsurf ( Return to the Constitution.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies ]

To: TSgt; EAGLE7; kingpins10; SENTINEL
I know of few Catholics who read their bible let alone carry one to church.

Why would a catholic need to bring a bible to church when the liturgy is taken from the bible. Dr. Scott Hahn encountered this on his first visit to a catholic mass. (emphasis mine)

The second thing that happened was when I quietly slipped into the basement chapel down at Marquette, Gesu. They were having a noon Mass and I had never gone to Mass before. I slipped in. I sat down in the back pew. I didn't kneel. I didn't genuflect, I wouldn't stand. I was an observer; I was there to watch. But I was surprised when 40, 50, 60, 80, or 100 ordinary folk just walked in off the street for midday Mass, ordinary folk who just came in, genuflected, knelt and prayed. Then a bell rang and they all stood up and Mass began. I had never seen it before.

The Liturgy of the Word was so rich, not only the Scripture readings. They read more Scripture, I thought, in a weekday Mass than we read in a Sunday service. But their prayers were soaked with Biblical language and phrases from Isaiah and Ezekiel. I sat there saying, "Man, stop the show, let me explain your prayers. That's Zechariah; that's Ezekiel. Wow! It's like the Bible coming to life and dancing out on the center stage and saying, "This is where I belong."

The Scott Hahn Conversion Story

Catholics should devote more time to reading scripture and priests encourage them to do so. Catholics are surrounded by scripture at Mass and in their daily prayers; for some, that is sufficient.

97 posted on 01/04/2011 10:06:09 AM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies ]

To: TSgt

GEESH....we don’t HAVE to carry a Bible to Church...our READINGS are ALL from the BIBLE!!!! What is a St. Pious (PIUS) X SECT??? do tell!!!


175 posted on 01/02/2017 3:54:15 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson