Joseph Smith: An Apostle of Jesus Christ

You'll have to buy the book.

Ha! You're a descendant of Abraham Pierce then (per your link). Big Whoop!

1,581 posted on 01/04/2011 2:30:34 PM PST by colorcountry (Comforting lies are not your friends. Painful truths are not your enemies.)

To: T Minus Four

It is pathetic. The Mormon obfuscation is pathetic.

Why don’t they just come out on a public forum like this one and be honest for once. Would that be so hard?

1,582 posted on 01/04/2011 2:32:43 PM PST by colorcountry (Comforting lies are not your friends. Painful truths are not your enemies.)

To: Jim Robinson

"..If they act in concert to violate the spirit of the caucus privilege, then they’ll lose the privilege..."

So Mormons STILL CAN POST CAUCUS THREADS. How you could prove the act in concert stuff is hard. Why don't you just ban the abusers as they appear and keep doing it. The word will get around.

1,583 posted on 01/04/2011 2:32:46 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182

To: caww; reaganaut

or is it a warm climate? :-)

1,584 posted on 01/04/2011 2:33:17 PM PST by T Minus Four ("Vital truths were restored by God through Joseph Smith. I just can't think of one")

To: T Minus Four

wait, I thought there was pretty much universal salvation in the LDS church. The works are just to gain levels of heaven. Never was very clear what they needed Jesus for.

MORONI 10:32: “Yea, come unto Christ, and be perfected in him, and deny yourselves of all ungodliness; and if ye shall deny yourselves of all ungodliness, and love God with all your might, mind and strength, then is his grace sufficient for you, that by his grace ye may be perfect in Christ; and if by the grace of God ye are perfect in Christ, ye can in nowise deny the power of God.”

1,585 posted on 01/04/2011 2:34:00 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)

To: Anti-Bubba182; Jim Robinson

Why the heck don’t you quit telling Jim Robinson how to run his forum.

If I were him, I would swat you away like a bothersome fly. Kudos to him for putting up with you.

1,586 posted on 01/04/2011 2:34:16 PM PST by colorcountry (Comforting lies are not your friends. Painful truths are not your enemies.)

To: colorcountry; DelphiUser

...and Herbert Hurlbut. Esquire.

1,587 posted on 01/04/2011 2:34:48 PM PST by T Minus Four ("Vital truths were restored by God through Joseph Smith. I just can't think of one")

1,588 posted on 01/04/2011 2:35:47 PM PST by T Minus Four ("Vital truths were restored by God through Joseph Smith. I just can't think of one")

To: greyfoxx39; Jim Robinson

Recognizing Jim Robinson as Honorary Flying Inman.
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Hear hear...

I agree...

1,589 posted on 01/04/2011 2:38:11 PM PST by Tennessee Nana

To: Anti-Bubba182

Sheesh, let up already.

1,590 posted on 01/04/2011 2:39:25 PM PST by T Minus Four ("Vital truths were restored by God through Joseph Smith. I just can't think of one")

1,591 posted on 01/04/2011 2:40:00 PM PST by Tennessee Nana

To: Tennessee Nana; greyfoxx39

Recognizing Jim Robinson as Honorary Flying Inman

I would be honored.

1,592 posted on 01/04/2011 2:40:31 PM PST by T Minus Four ("Vital truths were restored by God through Joseph Smith. I just can't think of one")

To: Tennessee Nana

Nana, if you doubt me, you can always go buy your own Copy of the Book, My family has had to buy many as we researched, but it's been fun, informative and gives you a sense of history when you can see that your family split and brothers fought on opposite sides of the Civil War, or that you have an Indian who married in here, or that the family line of one of your siblings ends in an accident, or famine. OR the Gunfighter who thought he was fast... You know. It makes it more personal.

Now, here's another famous person I'm related to, although my mom doesn't want any one to know.

Governor Boggs, yep, the Guy who signed the extermination proclamation in Missouri, yeah him. When people in Utah start talking about who their ancestors are and which wagon train or whatever, I can usually stop the conversation cold by telling them My ancestor tried to exterminate all theirs... It makes for some interesting conversation, many never considered that opponents of the church had children too.

Anyway, Nana, have a good day, God bless.

Delph

1,593 posted on 01/04/2011 2:40:41 PM PST by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")

To: T Minus Four

1,594 posted on 01/04/2011 2:41:44 PM PST by Tennessee Nana

Oooooo-kay. And it takes you back to Abraham. Right.

1,595 posted on 01/04/2011 2:51:05 PM PST by T Minus Four ("Vital truths were restored by God through Joseph Smith. I just can't think of one")

To: T Minus Four; DelphiUser

yeppers, Abraham....Pierce or Peirce. ;)

1,596 posted on 01/04/2011 2:53:03 PM PST by colorcountry (Comforting lies are not your friends. Painful truths are not your enemies.)

BTW, as a fellow founding member, all the way back to the Mittbot wars, I am saddened to see my name no longer there. Sheesh! Go away for a year or so and see what goes down... ;)

Well, you have been added back. I think you did ask to have your name removed temporarily. If not, it was dropped purely by accident!

1,597 posted on 01/04/2011 3:07:12 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (("A Leftist assumption: Making money doesn't entitle you to it, but wanting money does.")

One of my favorite statements ever, on this board (I wish I remembered who said it) was, "You can't nag your brother or sister into Heaven."

We each have different life experiences. I like the "show me" approach, also.

1,598 posted on 01/04/2011 3:15:28 PM PST by HungarianGypsy

DU read me carefully...

There were no books as such printed before Gutenburg...

and before that Christian monks say in drafty garrets painstackingly copying word for word by hand...the Bible..

It took YEARS to copy one Bible..

Little else but affairs of state and religious documents were written on paper, or parchment...

the only births, baptisms, marriages or deaths were of nobel families by those who could write..

few events of peon families were ever recorded unless the parish priest noted the christening in the church of a favored lackey of the local squire or lord of the manor..

and religious wars caused the destruction of many churches so those records are GONE...

Before that papyrus or bark or animal skins were used...

2,000 years at the time the Word of God came in the flesh as the LORD Jesus Christ, your English, French, Dutch and German ancestors were running around in animal skins not interested in recording anything on their britches and fighting the Roman soldiers..

and so on...

You are wasting your time trying to argue such a dumb point with me...

Im a geneologist from decades back...

You can no more trace your family back to the original 12 tribes of the sons of Jacob than the blasphemer Joey Smith could prove he was a direct descendant of the LORD Jesus Christ...

and yes its fun to do research into your families history...

However the mormons make a mockery of geneology as they make a mockery of just about everything else and use it merely to make money..

several of my ancestors were dead dunked into mormonism an evil Satanic religion they would have adhored...

The mormon IGI is full of wrrors...which the mormons refuse to correct when told..

Real geneologosts are extremely careful over their research and check each source...

too much junk I have found leads back to Utah...

BTW I have never used the IGI for my research because they are so unreliable...

and when I need to see documents I get them from elsewhere...

the mormons charge twice as much for something coming to Tennesse just from Utah as I can pay to get something from overseas...

Now I realize that the mormons would likme to OWN my families history and the family lines of evceryone...but they dont have that monopoly as yet...

Oh Boo Hooo

Meanwhile kid you are not descended from the 12 tribes...

and Gov Boggs of MO was just repeating the erxtermination order that the mormons had already brought against the innocent citizens of MO...

and while the mormons had their 5,000 strong gang of Danite dutthroats and thugs ready to murder the lawabiding non-mormons and steal their land etc...

Gov Boggs just ordered the criminal mormons to cease and desist and leave his state...

as gov he had a sworn dury to protect and serve his MO constituents and he did so...

The mormons had a choice to live in MO peacefully or leave...

some mormons chose to leave...and went with Joey Smith on his next maraudering crime spree...

Some mormons chose to stay and settled down as peaceful settlers, were never molested and their descendants still live in MO to this day...

BTW if you are attempting to say your ancestors were Indians, I have Cherokee grandchildren...

Plus at least 2 of my ancestors were killed by Indians..

Both men gave as good as they got...

I always havbe a good day...

and your mormon god does not have the power to bless anyone...

as he is only a man he cant even save or bless himself...

It takes the Blood that God Himself, the LORD Jesus Christ, shed on the Cross to do that...

1,600 posted on 01/04/2011 3:21:25 PM PST by Tennessee Nana

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