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To: Westbrook
You know, maybe I’m just a rube, but that sounds like word mincing to me.

Not really, because a “kingdom” and “nation” in biblical terms encompass more than a single physical locale.

But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light; who once were not a people but are now the people of God, who had not obtained mercy but now have obtained mercy. (1 Peter 2:9,10)

Listen, my beloved brethren: Has God not chosen the poor of this world to be rich in faith and heirs of the kingdom which He promised to those who love Him? (James 2:5)

All speaking of the Church.

I think they speak rather plainly for themselves. I’ve heard these passages explained away in various ways, but I was unable to find the explanations believable in light of the plain text.

The plain text? You mean the explanation of those who see these things in terms of modern nuclear war? Modern textchology? Modern armies? Those things plain text?

50 posted on 01/02/2011 6:33:00 PM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- like crack for the eschatologically naive.")
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To: topcat54

> (1 Peter 2:9,10)

Yes, this is the promise made to Israel being extended to those who were grafted on to the root of Jesse. Read Romans 11.

As for Rev 11-17, I’m thinking about things like being able to see events happen all over the world simultaneously. Not possible until recently.

Things like a government that encompasses the entire world, not just Europe or the Middle East. You know, like the flood that encompassed the entire world. You do believe in the global flood, right?

Things like the 12,000 from 12 of the tribes of Israel being given God’s seal before the angels are allowed to do hurt to the entire Earth.

You know, stuff like that.

If you think all of these things have already come to pass, good for you.

I don’t.

By and by, we shall see who was correct.

Not likely that you and I are going to agree on this until it’s over.

I have a large family and a full-time job, and probably spend way too much time on this web site already.


54 posted on 01/02/2011 6:49:47 PM PST by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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