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1 posted on 12/31/2010 9:03:47 PM PST by topcat54
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2 posted on 12/31/2010 9:07:44 PM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- like crack for the eschatologically naive.")
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> This time, the kingdom was taken from them and given to
> the true nation.

You mean the Paleostinians?

That’s who gets the land if Israel is eradicated.

Besides, we still have the prophesies Rev 11-17 to be fulfulled.


3 posted on 12/31/2010 9:21:44 PM PST by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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The desire to have The Kingdom of God on Earth dies hard even as Jesus called it the Kingdom of the Heavens.


4 posted on 12/31/2010 9:45:18 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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Looks painful, pulling such a large theology from one’s fanny.

Start with Zech. 14, then Ezek. 36-48. There are too many references to the land, places, boundaries, the temple, the city, nations, specifically named nations, and physical blessings for the nation of Israel.

Reformed theology has done the Christian world much good. Reformed eschatology, on the other hand, is brownies and dog poo in a blender.


5 posted on 12/31/2010 10:31:37 PM PST by lurk
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“Mystery Babylon” is the revived Roman empire (EU) with which the catholic church will be part of in the future.

To say that it is Jerusalem risible.


6 posted on 12/31/2010 10:50:35 PM PST by kingpins10
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To say that God has cast off the Jews (Jerusalem) goes against what is in the old and new testament. The Jews will be “grafted in” again at the beginning of the millenial kingdom.

Anyone who believes that God has made Himself a liar by breaking His promise to Abraham is deceived.


7 posted on 12/31/2010 10:54:10 PM PST by kingpins10
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Rome was defeated and re-defeated several times and is now falling apart again (globalism). Just let it go. ;-)


8 posted on 12/31/2010 10:59:42 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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uhmm...the Kingdom of Israel was divided into two houses, the House of Judah and the House of Israel. In Hosea, we are told Yahweh divorced the House of Israel but never are we told He divorced the House of Judah. These are the Jewish people today, the House of Judah.

History doesn’t shine a good light on your Biblical opinion.


9 posted on 12/31/2010 11:30:40 PM PST by ladyL
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Modern day Christians simply do not understand that when they demand the land of Israel for the Old Jewish people so that they may rebuild a Temple and resume sacrifices, they are praying for the rankest and vilest of idolatries to occur.

Oops. Someone forgot to tell the first disciples. They kept on worshipping in that "rankest" Temple. In Acts 22, Paul goes to the Temple to offer sacrifices for the end of a Nazarite vow. A careful look at the Greek verb tenses in the book of Hebrews reveal not only a functioning earthly Temple, but one that was efficacious in the First Century (English translators, not able to deal with the truth CHANGE the verbs to past tense)...So those closest to the source (Messiah Himself), were so badly confused?

You see, this is what happens when people trust their theology more than the actual words of Scripture.
10 posted on 01/01/2011 6:11:43 AM PST by Tzfat
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The other point about the Temple is that there is no prophecy for Herod’s temple to be rebuilt. Jesus said it would be destroyed and there is no prophecy where it is rebuilt.

The End-Times guys say that the prophecy about rebuilding that Temple is really a ‘double-reference’ prophecy from the Old Testament. And that is just hogwash. There are no prophecies in the history of Scripture that are intended to be multi-referenced. To have a multi-reference prophecy makes prophecy meaningless.


13 posted on 01/01/2011 7:11:56 AM PST by webstersII
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Context? I believe Jesus ,that Rabbi from Nazareth was teaching in the Temple and the Priests and Elders came to Him there- Verse 43 is understood in light of that context—and I believe refers to Isaiah 66:7-14. But as The apostle Paul taught the believers at Rome (11:) God hath not put away His people.(see v.1) and ‘If the first fruits be holy,the lump is also holy: if the root be holy ,so are the branches...(see v16 and c.) I cannot believe replacement theology in the notion that God has cast aside His chosen people.


15 posted on 01/01/2011 7:28:51 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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Jesus told his listeners, “The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof” (Matt. 21:43). For many people, this verse provides the heart of “replacement theology”—the idea that the Christian Church has replaced the old physical nation of Israel as God’s chosen people and priestly nation (1 Pet. 2:9–10, et al).

The OP seems to be unaware that the Great Whore has daughters. What was in Babylon moved to Jerusalem. What was in Jerusalem has moved to Rome... And Rome has her daughters too.

And the OP seems equally unaware of who the "Lo Ammi (not my people)" are, as these are a specific people. Find out who the "barren woman" is in Isaiah 54 to reveal many things.

And finally, the OP totally missed the boat on this:

From this sweeping condemnation we can learn that the city called “Babylon” in Revelation 17 and 18 is not the Babylon of Nebuchadnezzar, but Jerusalem called Babylon because she had corrupted herself and become like that ancient pagan Empire:

The woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet [colors of the chief priest and the Temple; Ex. 25–28; 38–39], and adorned with gold and jewels and pearls, holding in her hand a golden cup full of abominations and the impurities of her sexual immorality. And on her forehead was written a name of mystery: “Babylon the great, mother of prostitutes and of earth’s abominations” (Rev. 17:4–5).

What is relevant in the colors of the priests garments is the color which is missing, not the colors that are there. find out what the color blue represents, and many more things will be made very clear.

21 posted on 01/01/2011 9:20:55 AM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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The God of Abraham ,Issac and Jacob does not lie .
He does not break his promises .

Zec 12:7 The LORD also shall save the tents of Judah first, that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem do not magnify themselves against Judah.
Zec 12:8 In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the LORD before them.
Zec 12:9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
Zec 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Many are going to be awful surprised when that day comes .
They/you might not know it yet but the war is already won and Israel REMAINS

You and those who go against God’s WORD might not though

Rom 11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.


40 posted on 01/01/2011 3:08:42 PM PST by Lera
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Interesting article. I need to read more to comment. But expect flames from all sides


47 posted on 01/02/2011 7:18:28 AM PST by Cronos (Kto jestem? Nie wiem! Ale moj Bog wie!)
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the Old Jewish way of God’s witness and work on earth—the Old Testament Temple ritual system—was being abolished. It was being abolished because it was never meant to be permanent, but only a symbol that pointed to the reality of Jesus Christ, the true Temple, the true Emanuel.

The only problem is that this is what the "new testament" claims. It's no different than the "holy qur'an" claiming toe invalidate chr*stianity.

For the "old Jewish system" to be temporary and preparatory, it must claim this for itself . . . not have such a claim made only by the religion that claims to be replacing it.

99 posted on 01/05/2011 1:58:25 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vayhi be`etzem hayom hazeh; hotzi' HaShem 'et-Benei Yisra'el me'Eretz Mitzrayim `al-tziv'otam.)
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