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Is Mormonism Christian?: A Comparison of Mormonism and Historic Christianity
Institute for Religious Research ^ | 1999

Posted on 12/26/2010 5:29:46 PM PST by Colofornian

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To: DelphiUser
I have not ever objected to scriptural quotations, interpretations, sometimes, and scriptures out of context I have expended to be in context, but I have never complained about the scriptures being posted.

Can you interpret this for me....Clean it up, maybe clarify?

I can't respond intelligently until you do....

I mean really, you be posting like...ummmmm "another" poster here.

281 posted on 12/27/2010 12:01:15 PM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: Normandy

He actually WAS/IS God. That’s the part you keep missing.


282 posted on 12/27/2010 12:01:30 PM PST by T Minus Four ("Vital truths were restored by God through Joseph Smith. I just can't think of one")
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To: T Minus Four; All
An Open Letter to Mormons who are
sincere about their faith...
 
(and slightly embarrassed by the posts of self-styled
"defender-mormons")
 
If you peruse the Free Republic religion forums
you will notice a pattern. There’s a group of
Christians who spend a great deal of time posting
from Official Mormon Sources - both the Book of
Mormon as well as Mormon Prophets and Church
materials - real quotes from real mormon materials.
 
You will also notice that many of these Christians
are former Mormons who left Mormonism and come to
know the Biblical Jesus Christ and His Gospel of Grace.
 
They have a passion to reach Mormons to share what
they learned about Salvation by grace and apart
from the never ending treadmill of human works...
 
Of course, they are attacked regularly by a very,
small group of Mormons who have zeal, but no real
knowledge beyond what the Mormon Church has told
them. You've seen this with your own eyes on this
thread and others, so I'm not telling you anything
you don't already know.
 
Why can't these so-called "defenders" provide any:
 
… Objective Facts
… Objective Evidence
… Or Logical support
 
Anything OBJECTIVE that any reasonable person would
see and agree that it lends support the claims of
Mormonism.
 
Why can't they do this?
 
If Mormonism is true, why is it based only on
subjective feelings and why doesn't it have the
same kind of objective support the Bible does?
 
Has God changed?
 
Is He no longer able to weave His story into history,
into the fabric of human DNA, into the findings of
archeology, and into geography? Do you believe He has
become powerless?
 
I bet you do not believe that.
 
So why would God provide every kind of objective support
for the Bible's rich history and none for the Book of
Mormon? Why?
 
These "defenders" post links over and over again that
“address” things yet never provide an answer that is
buttressed by the ring of truth, echoed by history,
archeology, genetics, geography, etc.
 
If they could support the claims of Mormonism with facts,
you know they would. But it never happens here. You may
be new to these threads, but I've read almost every one
for the past 6 years. I can tell you that it is always
the same as this thread. No facts, no evidence, no logical
argument. 
 
People deserve more than subjective feelings and useless
links to non-answers.
 
You deserve more than feelings and hollow links.
 
After reading both sides on this thread and others,
you may very well be wondering about what you were
taught when you joined the LDS church. You also may
be wondering how to resolve the lack of facts, evidence
and logical suport for Mormonism's claims.
 
You are not alone in wondering this.
 
Many have approached those of us who are Christians
asking where to find out more and some, even, to ask
how to come to know the Biblical Christ and some even how
to gracefully leave Mormonism and start a new life with
Christ.
 
Many here have already set out to finally and joyfully know
the true God and Savior. They understand the terrible choice
of being totally sincere about your faith, but increasingly
concerned that it isn't everything you once believed and hoped
for.

After coming to know the truth, they are on a path that gives
them the rest God promised to His children and the certainty
of His ultimate plan for them. Nothing brings them greater joy
than helping a friend who has the same questions.
 
There are places online that you can visit to learn more about
Mormonism.
 
If something is true, it can withstand any question, no matter
how tough. If it is false, it is better to know while your life
is in front of you. You can read these resources without fear.
 
http://www.irr.org/mit/default.html
http://www.exmormonsforjesus.org/
http://4mormon.org/ex-mormon.php
http://www.exmormon.org/
http://www.mormoncurtain.com/
 
Links may raise more questions and concerns and sometimes it
helps to have someone who has already wrestled through these
issues.
 
I invite you to private FReep-mail any of the Christians
on this thread to ask questions about the concerns you have.
 
We always do our best to directly answer your questions with
facts, evidence and logical support.
 
Take a step.
 
Roll the dice.
 
What do you have to lose at this point? And you have much to
gain. 
 
There is peace and rest waiting for you.
 
 
All the Best,
ampu

283 posted on 12/27/2010 12:02:57 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: DelphiUser
If you really want answers, start by eliminating words like slither from your posts, next start using real names instead of diminutives (joey for Joseph, etc), last actually listen to the answers without prejudice. Short of those... continue to be bothered and ignorant, no one is going to try to teach a demagogue for long.
 
 
You know; you are QUITE a piece of work!
 
One hand giveth; and the other taketh away...
 


 
(Number 18 again...)

284 posted on 12/27/2010 12:04:47 PM PST by Elsie
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To: JAKraig
since Bishops were only to have one wife it stands to reason that some early Christians had more than one wife

Instead of "relying on your own understanding", try doing some actual cultural reasearch into the time and place of Jesus. Polygamy was quite uncommon.

Anyway, how would that jibe with what some LDS say about Jesus having practiced polygamy? I understand that that was the true way, it was lost over the ages, and then Joseph Smith "restored" it.

Could Jesus have been ineligible to be a bishop in His own church?

285 posted on 12/27/2010 12:07:26 PM PST by T Minus Four ("Vital truths were restored by God through Joseph Smith. I just can't think of one")
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To: Normandy
People are making the same mistake these days when it comes to how they view Latter-day Saints.

Yup...

 
 
2 Kings 17:41
 
Even while these people were worshiping the Lord, they were serving their idols.
To this day their children and grandchildren continue to do as their fathers did.

286 posted on 12/27/2010 12:07:26 PM PST by Elsie
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To: DelphiUser
Polygamy is Biblical, if your brand of Christianity is Biblical, then polygamy is compatible with it, it's reality, it's history, deal with it.

MORMONs REFUSE to follow what GOD plainly told them to do in D&C 132.

DEAL WITH IT!

287 posted on 12/27/2010 12:09:53 PM PST by Elsie
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To: DelphiUser
The FAKE momons; that is.

REAL Mormon's PRACTICE what GOD told them to do; but the bigger group of HYPOCRITS can't STAND that they do it!

(Makes them look; oh, I don't know; like WIMPS maybe?)

288 posted on 12/27/2010 12:11:56 PM PST by Elsie
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To: DelphiUser
 
 Are you implying that I make false statements? </hypersensitive mode>

 
 
 
Oh NO! Great One!
 
Not YOU!!!

289 posted on 12/27/2010 12:14:21 PM PST by Elsie
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To: DelphiUser
Don't get upset, I'm just the guy over here in the corner making sense.

Of COURSE!

What ELSE would a Superior Being make?

290 posted on 12/27/2010 12:15:42 PM PST by Elsie
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To: DelphiUser
Cause I've been bit by anti's before who post private messages to the RM and keep calling me names baiting me to respond in posts they are not pinging the RM on.

I've called you names;

What are you going to do about it?

291 posted on 12/27/2010 12:16:47 PM PST by Elsie
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To: DelphiUser
OK, there is only One God, happy?

BAck to training school for you!

292 posted on 12/27/2010 12:17:28 PM PST by Elsie
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To: DelphiUser
OK, there is only One God, happy?

With TWO physical bodies?

Even a school boy can figger THIS one out!

293 posted on 12/27/2010 12:18:01 PM PST by Elsie
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To: N3WBI3

I will not judge any persons religion, it just is not my job. Nowhere in the New Testament are we commanded to judge another religion. We are to bring the message...gospel to people, if it is not accepted, we wipe the dirt off of our shoes and move on. Man plants the seeds, God provides the seed (the Word) and causes them to grow. I don’t know how you would approach a Mormon and tell them to repent and believe, when they already believe....rightly or wrongly. There are people on this Earth that have had their eyes and ears sealed shut, to protect them. Mormons may be a part of that group.


294 posted on 12/27/2010 12:19:27 PM PST by runninglips (Don't support the Republican party, work to "fundamentally change" it...conservative would be nice)
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To: DelphiUser
What a breath of fresh air!

(It might be your posts...)

295 posted on 12/27/2010 12:20:30 PM PST by Elsie
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To: maine-iac7

Like DU says...

God bless.


296 posted on 12/27/2010 12:21:28 PM PST by Elsie
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To: maine-iac7
Don't bother with a reply - it won't be read, much less commented upon.

But you'll have to driveby again; as you've missed the intended target.

(Hint: we just LOVE it when MORMONs show up with their ATTITUDES on display. It cuts down on the amount of typing that we have to do.)

297 posted on 12/27/2010 12:23:09 PM PST by Elsie
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To: Paragon Defender
Mormonism IS Historic Christianity.

Uh... you've spelled HERETIC wrong.

298 posted on 12/27/2010 12:23:56 PM PST by Elsie
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To: maine-iac7

I agree with both y’all!


299 posted on 12/27/2010 12:25:17 PM PST by Elsie
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To: runninglips; ejonesie22

runninglips,

As it turns out, your post is incorrect.

A Christian who knows the Bible, (which IS translated correctly) knows that pertains to fellow Christians who are acting in a hypocritical manner, we are not to judge the hearts of our brothers and sisters in the family of Christ

HOWEVER...

We can judge actions and also teachings and doctrine that are false or contrary to the Word of God...

JOHN 7:14: “Judge not according to appearance, but judge righteous judgment.”

LUKE 12:57: “Yea, and why not even of yourselves judge ye not what is right?”

PSALM 37:30: “The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.”

PROVERBS 31:9: “Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy.”

LUKE 17:3: “Take heed... If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent,

2 Peter 2:1-3 but there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovreign Lord who bought them - bringing swift destruction on themselves. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping”

1 John 4:1 “dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world”

1 Timothy 4:1-8 1The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. 2Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. 3They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth. 4For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, 5because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer.
6If you point these things out to the brothers, you will be a good minister of Christ Jesus, brought up in the truths of the faith and of the good teaching that you have followed. 7Have nothing to do with godless myths and old wives’ tales; rather, train yourself to be godly. 8For physical training is of some value, but godliness has value for all things, holding promise for both the present life and the life to come.

Righteous judgment of the words, teachings and doctrines of others is perfectly allowable by God.

[hat tip to ejonsie22 - from one of his earlier compilations]


300 posted on 12/27/2010 12:30:26 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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