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Is Mormonism Christian?: A Comparison of Mormonism and Historic Christianity
Institute for Religious Research ^ | 1999

Posted on 12/26/2010 5:29:46 PM PST by Colofornian

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To: delacoert

So, you’re asking him to identify people, “making it personal” so complaints can be made?

Not very sporting. Nor IMHO very Christian.


101 posted on 12/26/2010 11:20:14 PM PST by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: DelphiUser
Beddy bye time ...
102 posted on 12/26/2010 11:21:45 PM PST by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: reaganaut

No, Mormonism isn’t Christianity.

Why? Because their doctrine departs from fundamental Christianity.

Using the laws of logic, if something is true, then all other possibilities are false. Truth is exclusive.

Next question.


103 posted on 12/26/2010 11:45:39 PM PST by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: HerrBlucher

I hope that no one will feel corrupted by this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjMT9xlyMw


104 posted on 12/26/2010 11:50:54 PM PST by Normandy
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To: Normandy

Why not post a Rob Zombie music vid and be done with it?....:)


105 posted on 12/27/2010 12:01:13 AM PST by HerrBlucher (Defund, repeal, investigate, impeach, convict, jail, celebrate.)
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To: runninglips

Yadda, yaddda — it’s the same within whichever group you go to — pastors run their own bureaucracy.


106 posted on 12/27/2010 1:08:08 AM PST by Cronos (Kto jestem? Nie wiem! Ale moj Bog wie!)
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To: DelphiUser

Nana, I got tired of reading your list looking for something truthful...
______________________________________

Well thats a point Kid...

None of mormonism is truthful...

Have yourself a Happy New Year...

Get out of that mess...


107 posted on 12/27/2010 3:32:33 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: devere

When one finds Muslims proselytizing on FR and/or calling themselves Christians, call me...


108 posted on 12/27/2010 4:42:36 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: maine-iac7; reaganaut
Hardly. Reaganaut has been there, done that. Has no reason to lie about it.
109 posted on 12/27/2010 4:53:28 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: JAKraig
With just a little research, even you could find out that the god of Mormonism and the jesus of Mormonism are not the same as the One God of Judeo-Christian belief and not the Jesus of Christianity ... I'll give you a few direct quotes from the Momronism founder(s) to illustrate, presuming you have some background understanding of the God and Jesus of the Tanakh and New Testament:

'A' god. "I have always declared God to be a distinct personage, Jesus Christ a separate and distinct personage from God the Father, and the Holy Ghost was a distinct personage and a Spirit: and these three constitute three distinct personages and three God's." (Joseph Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 370.).

>“I learned a testimony concerning Abraham, and he reasoned concerning the Gods of heaven. '...Intelligences exist one above another, so that there is no end to them.' If Abraham reasoned thus--If Jesus Christ was the Son of God, and John discovered that God the Father of Jesus Christ had a Father, you may suppose that He had a Father also. Where was there ever a son without a father? And where was there ever a father without first being a son? Whenever did a tree or anything spring into existence without a progenitor? And everything comes in this way. Paul says that which is earthly is in the likeness of that which is heavenly. Hence if Jesus had a Father, can we not believe that He had a Father also? I despise the idea of being scared to death at such a doctrine, for the Bible is full of it. I want you to pay particular attention to what I am saying. Jesus said that the Father wrought precisely in the same way as His Father had done before Him. As the Father had done before? He laid down His life, and took it up the same as His Father had done before. (Joseph Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 373)

>"We were begotten by our Father in Heaven; the person of our Father in Heaven was begotten on a previous heavenly world by His Father; and again, He was begotten by a still more ancient Father, and so on, from generation to generation, from one heavenly world to another still more ancient, until our minds are wearied and lost in the multiplicity of generations and successive worlds, … and as a last resort, we wonder in our minds, how far back the genealogy extends, and how the first world was formed, and the first father was begotten. But why does man seek for a first, when revelation informs him that God's works are without beginning? (Lds apostle Orson Pratt, The Seer, p. 132, 1853)

"These name-titles all signify that our Lord is the only Son of the Father in the flesh. Each of the words is to be understood literally. Only means only; Begotten means begotten; and Son means son. Christ was begotten by an Immortal Father in the same way that mortal men are begotten by mortal fathers" (Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 546-547).

"We worship the Father and him only and no one else. We do not worship the Son and we do not worship the Holy Ghost. I know perfectly well about what the scriptures say about worshipping Christ and Jehovah, but they are speaking in an entirely different sense - the sense of standing in awe and being reverentially grateful to Him who has redeemed us. Worship in the true and saving sense is reserved for God first, the Creator." (Bruce McConkie, Our Relationship with the Lord, Speech at BYU on March 2 1982).
"Nearly all prayers recorded in prayer books are formalistic and ritualistic and have little or no application to the personal problems and needs of the penitent persons who seek and desire the Lord’s guidance. As an indication of how far removed most of them are from the true form of prayer is the fact that many of them are not made in the name of Christ, while others are addressed directly to Christ…" (Bruce McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 587, emphasis added)

I will go back to the beginning, before the world was, to show what kind of a being God is. What sort of a being was God in the beginning? Open your ears and hear, all ye ends of the earth; for I am going to prove it to you by the Bible, and to tell you the designs of God in relation to the human race, and why he interferes with the affairs of man. God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted Man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens. That is the great secret. (Joseph Smith, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p. 3, 1844)

"Jesus was the bridegroom at the marriage of Cana of Galilee...We say it was Jesus Christ who was married, to be brought into relation whereby he could see his seed [children] before he was crucified (Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p. 82).

"There was a marriage in Cana of Galilee; and on a careful reading of that transaction, it will be discovered that non less a person that Jesus Christ was married on that occasion. If he was never married, his intimacy with Mary and Martha an the other Mary also whom Jesus loved, must have been highly unbecoming and improper to say the best of it." (Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses, vol. 4, p. 259).

"In the Church councils, it was spoken of: "Joseph F. Smith_ He spoke upon the marriage in Cana of Galilee. He thought Jesus was the bridegroom and Mary and Martha the brides."(Journal of Wilford Woodruff, July 22, 1883).

"The grand reason of the burst of public sentiment in anathemas upon Christ and his disciples, causing his crucifixion, was evidently based upon polygamy, according to the testimony of the philosophers who rose in that age. A belief in doctrine of a plurality of wives caused the persecution of Jesus and his followers. We might almost think they were Mormons (Jedediah Grant, Journal of Discourses, vol. 1, p. 346).

Perhaps we assume you know the God and Jesus of the Bible, and if you do you will discern immediately that the god and jesus of Mormonism are very different, antithetical in fact, from the God and Jesus of Christianity.

110 posted on 12/27/2010 5:00:09 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: JAKraig

Intersting argument.

Which would lead me to ask that if it is the same Christ, why are you not Mormon so you can join your wife in her work?


111 posted on 12/27/2010 5:02:20 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: DelphiUser; reaganaut

When can we expect them to post their stories?


112 posted on 12/27/2010 5:04:21 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: JAKraig
You made it clear you believe otherwise, but provide no theological backing for such a statement.

If you apply theology and doctrine you will see where your assumption is a little off...

113 posted on 12/27/2010 5:07:21 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: DelphiUser
Hey LC I went to the site, and didn’t see any of the post list stuff, is that yours?

There are 3 links in that reply.

Which one are you talking about?

114 posted on 12/27/2010 5:14:55 AM PST by Elsie
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To: DelphiUser
Just can’t leave the church alone.

Thanks be to GOD!

Now the doubting, lurking MORMONs reading these posts can KNOW that the way out of deception is hard; but doable and the light at the end of the tunnel is JESUS!

115 posted on 12/27/2010 5:17:04 AM PST by Elsie
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To: reaganaut
All I got was COAL!
116 posted on 12/27/2010 5:20:38 AM PST by Elsie
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To: HerrBlucher
 
If I contribute in any way to cause others to run from Christ who are almost there, God help me.


 
 
 2 Timothy 2:15-17
 15.  Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.
 16.  Avoid godless chatter, because those who indulge in it will become more and more ungodly.
 17.  Their teaching will spread like gangrene.
 
 
2 Timothy 3:16-17
 16.  All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
 17.  so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.
 
 
 2 Timothy 4:3-4
  3.  For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
  4.  They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.
 
 
Titus 1:11
   They must be silenced, because they are ruining whole households by teaching things they ought not to teach--and that for the sake of dishonest gain.
 
 
Titus 2:1
  You must teach what is in accord with sound doctrine.
 
 
Titus 2:15
  These, then, are the things you should teach. Encourage and rebuke with all authority. Do not let anyone despise you.
 
 
 Hebrews 13:9
 Do not be carried away by all kinds of strange teachings.
 
 
 2 Peter 2:1-3
 1.  But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
 2.  Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
 3.  In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
 
 
2 John 1:10
  If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or welcome him.


117 posted on 12/27/2010 5:40:20 AM PST by Elsie
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To: maine-iac7
You knowingly bear false witness - which makes you a Christian in name only

Oh?

What did this LIAR say that was FALSE?

118 posted on 12/27/2010 5:42:15 AM PST by Elsie
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To: reaganaut
I thought so too, accusing someone of lying is usually a sign of not being able to carry the debate.

Actually, one LOSES the debate when they CAN'T produce what they've considered to be a lie.

Mere accusations just ain't cuttin' it any more!

119 posted on 12/27/2010 5:44:19 AM PST by Elsie
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To: DelphiUser
Nana, I got tired of reading your list looking for something truthful...

You need to peruse PD's list:

I hear that it is FULL of truth!

120 posted on 12/27/2010 5:45:58 AM PST by Elsie
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