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Defeat of DREAM Act only a temporary setback, says Archbishop Gomez
Catholic News Agency ^ | Dec 22, 2010

Posted on 12/23/2010 8:10:12 AM PST by Alex Murphy

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To: Alex Murphy
to re-quote;

Anchor babies are not enough.
Check this out;

So now not only will we have babies born here as "anchors" which parents illegally residing in the U.S. deliberately (at times) use to justify their own presence in the United States, but we will have ANCHOR SCHOOL KIDS!!! All they have to do is make it to Junior High School.

61 posted on 12/23/2010 11:56:27 AM PST by BlueDragon
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To: Alex Murphy

“U.S. Bishops’ Committee on Migration”

These traitors should be booted out of the country right behind the illegal invaders.

Let them agitate south of the border.


62 posted on 12/23/2010 12:07:43 PM PST by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: vladimir998; Dick Vomer
Gomez is a member of Opus Dei. He is not anti-American, nor homosexual, nor communist.

Many modern bishops are freemason and/or homosexual. Opus Dei membership is no guarantee of orthodoxy. There is no traditional Catholic requirement for open borders. These bishops take a position harmful to the interests of American Catholics and to the nation as a whole.

63 posted on 12/23/2010 12:27:53 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: SharpRightTurn
These traitors should be booted out of the country right behind the illegal invaders.

That would be fine as long as the legions of non-Catholic (in name only) traitors were booted as well.

64 posted on 12/23/2010 12:32:11 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: mas cerveza por favor
There is no traditional Catholic requirement for open borders. Of course there isn't. The Church has based bishopric jurisdiction on political borders since the Second Ecumenical Council at least.
65 posted on 12/23/2010 12:45:09 PM PST by triumphant values (Never criticize that to your right.)
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To: Salvation
Why don’t you tell us outright that you hate the Catholic Church?

I love the church and what it used to be. I hate the men in the church who are anti-American. I hate the men in the church who hid and abetted homosexual seduction and rape of young boys under their care. I hate the fact that the convents have become lesbian liberal propaganda supporters.

And why do you put the name “communist” on the Catholic Church? The Church has repeated

My friend, I've been to Central and South America in a previous employment and I can assure you that the "Church" might be anti-communist, but some of the priests, brothers, sisters and novitiates in El Salvador, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Bolivia and other little out of the way spots I've been to actively support and aid the "freedom fighters" and guerillas. I've SEEN IT. I've HEARD IT. So spare me your sanctimonious tripe. My aunt was a novitiate in El Salvador having to come to this country and beg for money for their order and clinics, all the while the Catholic Church is one of the largest land owners in this country and has plenty of gold, money and silver to fund several pay outs for pederast priest hush money. Pathetic. That was when I had my falling out with the Church.

I was fortunate enough that I was mentored back to Christianity by my best friend and now realize that God and his son Jesus are my only hope. That I am nothing without them and that all men are fallen till they accept him.

Man and greed are universal. I'm not hating the Church, just the players. look these up for your proof.

http://www.trosch.org/bks/commprie.htm

http://www.christianorder.com/editorials/editorials_2000/editorials_nov00.html

Perhaps you had better do some research before you let your fingers do the talking for you — in falsehoods galore!

Lord have mercy on you!

What happened to your obedience of the Commandment “Thought shalt not beat false witnness against your neighbor”??

The Lord has had mercy on me. I am a poor Christian guilty of many far greater sins than you can imagine and will need every bit of his grace to be allowed to even be appear in judgement and not sent directly away from the Lord. But bearing false witness against the Catholic Church isn't one that I knowingly do.

As for proof, find some Marines and Army Green Berets that went TDY in Central and South America during the early 60's to mid 60's. They'll back me up on this. I'd like your proof that the Catholic church isn't or hasn't been infiltrated by Communists. We KNOW that there is a well connected and influential homosexual apparatus within the church. Or are you denying the frequency of relocation, hush money and numerous attacks by pederasts wearing the collar.


66 posted on 12/23/2010 12:57:07 PM PST by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat, they sh#t on)
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To: Alex Murphy

The Vatican claims to be a foreign Nation.

They remain hypocrites in sealing their nation while calling to open mine.


67 posted on 12/23/2010 2:36:33 PM PST by NoLibZone (Homosexuals oppose diversity.)
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To: mrmeyer
Off to the Thunderdome (Gomez leaving SAT)
Cardinal Roger Mahony's Religious and Political Agenda
Suspended Gay Calif. Priest Laments: Abp. Gomez a 'Sharp Thrust to the Right' for LA Diocese
More Bogus Charges Against Archbishop Gomez
SEX ABUSE LAWSUIT NAMES SAN ANTONIO ARCHDIOCESE
Latino Immigrants Proud That L.A.'s Next Archbishop Is 'One of Us' [Can We Get Rid of Ethnic Pride?]
In Defense of Archbishop Gomez's Handling of Abuse Scandals
Archbishop Gomez: Who is He?

Why Archbishop Gomez is like other Bishops Appointed by Pope Benedict
An Interview with Archbishop José H. Gomez
Gomez vows to be an advocate for L.A.'s immigrants...(misleading title alert!)
San Antonio's Archbishop José Gomez named by Pope to be successor to Cardinal Roger Mahony. ...
Precious words from the archbishop... [Jose Gomez]
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Opus Dei Seeks to Make Everyday Life Holier
Archbishop Gomez 'deeply grateful' for Los Angeles appointment
Cardinal Mahony grateful LA will have Hispanic archbishop
Vatican: Archbishop Gomez appointed to Archdiocese of LA

Pope's 'Revenge' As LA Gets Opus Dei Bishop [Pope's "Revenge" on Hollywood Sodomites!]
Gomez Holds Both Conservative And Progressive Views [Denounced College for Pro-Abortion HRC Invite]
Pope Names Latino Leader For L.A. Archdiocese [Member of Conservative Opus Dei Movement]/a>
Historic Appointment to LA Archdiocese
Report: Gomez is going to L.A.
It's Official: New Archbishop [Gomez} for Los Angeles
El Tiempo Ha Venido -- Reports: (Archbishop) Gomez Up to LA (Catholic Caucus)
[To replace Cardinal Mahony] Vatican rumor: an American prelate in play?
Los Angeles Getting a New Archbishop (Part 1)
Los Angeles Getting a New Archbishop (Part 2)

68 posted on 12/23/2010 7:35:30 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: tacticalogic
No more amensties until the border is secured.

No more amenesties EVER.

When you live where I do, that is not negotiatable.

69 posted on 12/23/2010 8:13:12 PM PST by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: NoLibZone

**The Vatican claims to be a foreign Nation.

They remain hypocrites in sealing their nation while calling to open mine.**

Would you care to expand on your statements? Or are they your opinions? In what way is anyone at the Vatican a hypocrite?

The Catholic Church has stood against all the things conservtative disdain: abortion, euthanasia, embryonic stem cell research, homosexuality, same-sex marriage, contraception, and the list goes on and on.

Other churches or denominations have crumbled to these pressures — the Catholic Church and the Vatican have stood firm and will continue to stand firm against these issues.

Sure doesn’t sound like hypocrites to me.


70 posted on 12/23/2010 9:00:45 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: vladimir998
This frijolero, like the rest of the Opus Dei cult, sees filling our great nation with subnormal IQ third worlders who pop out babies who are a drain on our national IQ and GDP as a "salvation" are enemies of our nation, and should be tolerated with extreme prejudice.

In more civilized times, patriotic Americans would know what to do with fifth columnists like Gomez.

71 posted on 12/23/2010 9:12:49 PM PST by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: muawiyah
Amazing thing that you'd find a Roman Catholic bishop doing so much on behalf of people who will probably become Pentecostals.

Or not.

"I have lived a humble and peaceful life since I converted. Everything is so clear," said Ahmed, 45, of Tarrytown. "I didn't see in Catholicism the unity and compassion I found in Islam. I saw more kindness and willingness to give."

Ahmed's change of faith is not unique among her ethnic group today. In recent years, thousands of Hispanics nationwide have been converting to Islam, particularly since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, when interest in the religion seemed to gain momentum.

Though precise statistics do not exist, the Council on American-Islamic Relations estimates there are more than 36,000 Hispanic Muslims in the nation today. Other estimates raise the total to 75,000. A study the group conducted also showed that 6 percent of the 20,000 annual converts to Islam are Hispanic.

Latinos Convert To Islam

72 posted on 12/23/2010 10:16:47 PM PST by Razz Barry (Round'em up, send'em home.)
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To: triumphant values

You wrote:

“The kid loses the bike that wasn’t his to begin with.”

The kid loses the only home he has ever known - and he did nothing wrong.

“Why are you having such a difficult time grabbing this?”

I’m not. I easily understand your illogic because I have seen so much of it here at FreeRepublic.

“These people aren’t even being stripped of any property, so you’re analogy is really, really wrong.”

No, my analogy makes perfect sense - they are losing their home - the only home they have ever known.

“Any of this sinking in?”

No, your illogic will never sink in - thank God for that.


73 posted on 12/24/2010 4:56:54 AM PST by vladimir998 (Copts, Nazis, Franks and Beans - what a public school education puts in your head.)
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To: triumphant values

You wrote:

“For liberals, free loaders, parasites, and criminals it would be utterly terrifying.”

And for anyone who disagreed with you. Essentially you’re a fascist.


74 posted on 12/24/2010 4:58:11 AM PST by vladimir998 (Copts, Nazis, Franks and Beans - what a public school education puts in your head.)
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To: mas cerveza por favor

You wrote:

“Many modern bishops are freemason and/or homosexual.”

No, not very likely.

“Opus Dei membership is no guarantee of orthodoxy.”

Generally it is.

“There is no traditional Catholic requirement for open borders.”

Is that what he is calling for?

“These bishops take a position harmful to the interests of American Catholics and to the nation as a whole.”

Christians have a habit of choosing God over nations.


75 posted on 12/24/2010 5:00:07 AM PST by vladimir998 (Copts, Nazis, Franks and Beans - what a public school education puts in your head.)
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To: Clemenza

Gee, I sure hope you enjoy your cross burning tonight.


76 posted on 12/24/2010 5:01:07 AM PST by vladimir998 (Copts, Nazis, Franks and Beans - what a public school education puts in your head.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Gomez would appear to be one of those church people advocating for “social justice” that Glenn Beck has been warning us about.


77 posted on 12/24/2010 5:13:57 AM PST by Fresh Wind
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To: mrmeyer

The Archbishop is reminding the immigrants that he is on their side, so they don’t go to the Pentecostal churches,who are far more into tithing then the Catholic Church. BTW.

As for the money and churches thing: Usually the same people who want the clergy to live in apostolic poverty also want themselves to live high on the hog. But history tells us that priests can’t win: if they live in poverty, they are held in contempt—for their poverty. If they live high, then they are held in contempt, for their wealth. Saints are subject to the same ridicule as sinners. That’s because, like teenagers, people are fickle lovers.


78 posted on 12/24/2010 11:25:45 AM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: vladimir998
The kid loses the only home he has ever known...

Oh boy, here we go, back full circle to squatters' rights doctrine.

No, when the sheriff evicts squatters, the kid gets the boot right along with ma and pa. Even if it's the "only home he has ever known".

...and he did nothing wrong.

Yeah, they did, and this was dealt with up the thread. Repeating it won't make it any more true this time than the first time you wrote it.

79 posted on 12/24/2010 4:31:29 PM PST by triumphant values (Never criticize that to your right.)
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To: vladimir998

Oh, spare me. If these “children” are so in love with the United States and want to become American citizens and show allegiance ONLY to the UNited States, then why do so many of them wave the Mexican flag, embrace the MEChA and LaRaza goal of reconquista (MEChA, if you don’t know, is a STUDENT organization, and one that is very much accepted by latino students), and badmouth the United States wth every breath? I don’t know where you’re from, but I was born and raised in Southern California, and I left there in the late 1970s because I saw way back then where the state was headed, and MEChA and LaRaza were in everyone’s face re: mexico first! latino first! chicano first! You perhaps should familiarize yourself with MEChA’s stated goals, which is that the United States must become a “bronze nation,” and that those Americans of European ancestry must be eliminated, by force if necessary.


80 posted on 12/25/2010 3:37:30 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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