[metmom]

What is the basis for this experience. Have you experienced this personally? Where? When? How? Why? Exactly what did you experience?

My experience, and the experience as stated by other former Catholics on this forum.

I know what the Catholics I grew up with and lived with and worked with believed. I've related it several times over the last several months and all I keep hearing is the knee jerk response of "That's not what the Catholic church *really* teaches", by which the person means is not technically correct Vatican approved doctrine. But it is, in reality, what the Catholic church does indeed teach else there wouldn't be so many Catholics with the exact same (alleged) errors about church doctrine.

If the errors were a matter of faulty individual interpretation, then they would be different errors, not all the same kind.

[Judith Anne]

Baloney.

[Salvation]

**If the errors were a matter of faulty individual interpretation**

[Cronos]

there wouldn't be so many with the exact same (alleged) errors about doctrine.

1. you have the CCC to refer for doctrine. There are no allegations there. It's far more well-documented and for ready reference than the entire list of your group's beliefs (of which we don't even know if it adheres to the Nicene Creed which encapsulates the definition of Christian belief very well)

2. There are 1 billion -- about 10 to 100 million times more souls than in your group, so of course there is far more difference of opinon than in one Branch-Davidian type group

3. People may have their own opinions on things, but there is only one doctrine documented. If someone believes incorrectly, it the duty of others to point it out to them and then for those who believe incorrectly to change. We don't have shunning -- though in my personal opinion it should be done for high-profile failures like Pelosi -- it is next to impossible to do with such a large congregation to the lowest level on the ground to shun. The big targets should be made examples of, yes.