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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Our current understanding of Time as a dimension could be the problem. We consider time as a linear phenomenon, a linear flow. In reality, dimension Time may be a volume, with an infinite number of planar expressions. Can you explain the scene in Daniel Chapter five? Can you explain how Jesus left the still wrapped burial shroud and the solid rock tomb.? Can you explain how Jesus appeared in the upper room with all the doors and windows locked? Just saying He is God so miracles arer His purview doesn’t answer the legitimate where/when questions. Angels reside in some spatio-temporal realm which God Created and which is part of the Universe of His creating. When our understanding of dimension Time improves, perhaps you will see that Jesus Who now occupies a physical body can hear every prayer uttered simultaneously from human souls, and how, PERHAPS, His earthly Mother now ‘beyond the veil’ can hear millions of prayers and hear each one individually. PERHAPS.


89 posted on 12/04/2010 10:59:32 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN; narses
When our understanding of dimension Time improves, perhaps you will see that Jesus Who now occupies a physical body can hear every prayer uttered simultaneously from human souls, and how, PERHAPS, His earthly Mother now ‘beyond the veil’ can hear millions of prayers and hear each one individually. PERHAPS.

When one dwells in the Beatific Vision, the Communion of the Saints occurs within the context of that Beatific vision. God hears all prayers, and if those alive in Christ on earth (in a state of Grace, with the indwelling of the Holy Trinity) ask those alive in Christ in Heaven (in the state of Grace, in the Beatific Vision with the Holy Trinity) for intercessory prayer, there is simply no reason God cannot share these requests with the living saints in Heaven, and these saints cannot in turn intercede at the judgment seat of the same Blessed Trinity.

This concept is neither difficult nor in any way in violation of scripture.

Those who twist these simple Truths to try to attack the Church, on the other hand, are indeed acting in violation of scripture.

101 posted on 12/04/2010 11:54:40 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM (Liberalism is infecund.)
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To: MHGinTN

MHGinTN wrote:
“Our current understanding of Time as a dimension could be the problem. We consider time as a linear phenomenon, a linear flow. In reality, dimension Time may be a volume, with an infinite number of planar expressions.”

Interesting. Our current understanding of Time as a dimension is almost certainly part of the problem. So, I will join you in this, I doubt that time is a linear phenomenon, even though it would appear that we humans are limited to this way of experiencing it. Whether time be a volume, as you say, or not, is finally a matter of speculation. It may be well thought through speculation, and it may even turn out to be true.

That said, the truth that sets us free is bound up entirely in Christ, in His person and work, in His word, for He is, per John 1:18; 3:31ff; 5:19ff; etc. (and there is a lot more etc.) the sole revealer of the mind and will of God toward us, the sole provider of the truth of all that lies outside of our ability to grasp and know (and pretty much everything within it as well).

Speculation is stimulating, interesting, and PERHAPS, even useful sometimes. Speculation is something as old as man, and it has been engaged in by nearly everyone who has stood outside gazing up at the night sky on a clear, moonless night or who has peered at the tiniest of creation’s entities and wondered “how” and “why.” To speculate is to be human, to be one who is, yes, fallen and corrupt, but still made in the image of God, and thus capable of thinking outside of himself. But Christianity is not built on speculation nor will it be improved upon by speculation. It is built on the Rock that is Christ, who alone is the way, the truth, and the life.

I enjoy your speculations. But I can take them only as that.


125 posted on 12/04/2010 12:27:09 PM PST by Belteshazzar
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