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To: MHGinTN; narses
When our understanding of dimension Time improves, perhaps you will see that Jesus Who now occupies a physical body can hear every prayer uttered simultaneously from human souls, and how, PERHAPS, His earthly Mother now ‘beyond the veil’ can hear millions of prayers and hear each one individually. PERHAPS.

When one dwells in the Beatific Vision, the Communion of the Saints occurs within the context of that Beatific vision. God hears all prayers, and if those alive in Christ on earth (in a state of Grace, with the indwelling of the Holy Trinity) ask those alive in Christ in Heaven (in the state of Grace, in the Beatific Vision with the Holy Trinity) for intercessory prayer, there is simply no reason God cannot share these requests with the living saints in Heaven, and these saints cannot in turn intercede at the judgment seat of the same Blessed Trinity.

This concept is neither difficult nor in any way in violation of scripture.

Those who twist these simple Truths to try to attack the Church, on the other hand, are indeed acting in violation of scripture.

101 posted on 12/04/2010 11:54:40 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM (Liberalism is infecund.)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

Well said Doctor, well said!


104 posted on 12/04/2010 11:56:33 AM PST by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
When one dwells in the Beatific Vision, the Communion of the Saints occurs within the context of that Beatific vision.

Classic catholic gibberish....Christ never stated such a confabbled bunch of nonesense as this statement reads. He kept it simple..."Follow Me"....not a church, not a pope, and surely not any man alive or dead.

113 posted on 12/04/2010 12:10:12 PM PST by caww
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

Dr. Brian Kopp wrote:
“... there is simply no reason God cannot share these requests with the living saints in Heaven.”

This is certainly true. Whether He does or not is the question at hand. Here Scripture is pretty silent.

He also wrote:
“This concept is neither difficult nor in any way in violation of scripture.”

Again, agreed that is not difficult to grasp how it could be so ... could. And one might be able to say that it is not in direct violation of scripture. However, that it is not “in any way in violation” is a much broader and more tenuous statement.

It seems to me it is also always in the nature of man to venture into the unknown if for no other reason than native curiosity. When it comes to science and discovery, this usually has a beneficial result (even if not immediately for the first explorers and discovers, who often pay a rather steep price for their curiosity). However, when man ventures into the unknown that lies beyond the powers of our senses and the deductions we have built on them, i.e., the empirical world, one enters the realm of the truly unknown in which God alone knows. Some of this unknown realm He has revealed to us and some of it He hasn’t. Here shipwreck can have a rather more lasting effect on the explorer than in the realm of the empirical.


139 posted on 12/04/2010 12:45:34 PM PST by Belteshazzar
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