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>>>> Just that Mary is “most highly favored one,” and “blessed among women,” whom “all generations shall call blessed” because “blessed is the fruit of [her] womb.”

>> That’s according to the RCC. However, according to Jesus..

No, those are all verses from the bible. I remember watching that Nativity movie a couple years ago, where Elizabeth’s greeting to Mary was so alien to the Protestant/fictionalized context of the nativity, it was removed from the story, and placed, balkanized, at the end of the movie. And Gabriel was a mute light.

You misquoted Luke 11:27-28. He doesn’t use any comparitives or superlatives. Mary is certainly included in all those who heard the word and obeyed.

>> All that she accomplishes? Besides willfully stretching it, She HEARD and OBEYED, no different than anyone who follows Jesus. <<

Precisely. However, she was declared “full of grace,” or, “most highly favored one” at a time when all other men were condemned. Even the archangel Gabriel greeted her, with a “Hail!”


426 posted on 12/05/2010 9:32:10 AM PST by dangus
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To: dangus; presently no screen name
No, those are all verses from the bible. I remember watching that Nativity movie a couple years ago, where Elizabeth’s greeting to Mary was so alien to the Protestant/fictionalized context of the nativity, it was removed from the story, and placed, balkanized, at the end of the movie. And Gabriel was a mute light.

What has Elizabeths greeting to do with our being saved? If she had said Ohh no Mary I hear you are pregnant out of wedlock.. would that have changed the gospel in any way?

One of the most interesting events that PROCEEDED that greeting was what happened in Elizabeths womb.. Luk 1:41 And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:

BEFORE Elizabeth could see or recognize Christ the Holy Spirit had to open her eyes ... The prophet John the Baptist was filled while in the womb of his mother

THAT is the event we need to celebrate, the work of the Holy Spirit..not Elizabeth or Mary but the work of God in HIS people

Precisely. However, she was declared “full of grace,” or, “most highly favored one” at a time when all other men were condemned. Even the archangel Gabriel greeted her, with a “Hail!”

How do YOU know ALL other men were condemned? What is your source of that knowledge? God ALWAYS has a remnant according to grace

The child in the womb of Elizabeth was a prophet..of him Christ said this

Mat 11:11 Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

The one that leapt in the womb at the presence of Christ..was counted, by Christ, as greater than His mother

434 posted on 12/05/2010 11:12:40 AM PST by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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To: dangus
You misquoted Luke 11:27-28. He doesn’t use any comparitives or superlatives. Mary is certainly included in all those who heard the word and obeyed.

How can I misquote when I posted it as it is in THE WORD? What's wrong with you?

And in my own words, I stated that Mary heard and obeyed...
She HEARD and OBEYED, no different than anyone who follows Jesus. And, yet, Catholics don't follow her example - they hear and disobey

Jesus said but more blessed - does NOT discount Mary but it clearly shows His response to the lady esteeming her. Do you know anyone else who does that? Are they hearing and obeying?

Why did He say 'more blessed' - could it be because Jesus told Thomas - because 'you have seen you have believed - blessed are those who have not seen and yet believed'.

Study the whole Bible - not pick out Scripture to suit your tradition. Catholics need to get their heads out of the cloud of deception and read and obey HIS Words as They are written! Always inserting 'your beliefs' according to tradition is not the way the way to Truth! And I'm assuming you want IT.
445 posted on 12/05/2010 12:01:22 PM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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