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To: dangus
You misquoted Luke 11:27-28. He doesn’t use any comparitives or superlatives. Mary is certainly included in all those who heard the word and obeyed.

How can I misquote when I posted it as it is in THE WORD? What's wrong with you?

And in my own words, I stated that Mary heard and obeyed...
She HEARD and OBEYED, no different than anyone who follows Jesus. And, yet, Catholics don't follow her example - they hear and disobey

Jesus said but more blessed - does NOT discount Mary but it clearly shows His response to the lady esteeming her. Do you know anyone else who does that? Are they hearing and obeying?

Why did He say 'more blessed' - could it be because Jesus told Thomas - because 'you have seen you have believed - blessed are those who have not seen and yet believed'.

Study the whole Bible - not pick out Scripture to suit your tradition. Catholics need to get their heads out of the cloud of deception and read and obey HIS Words as They are written! Always inserting 'your beliefs' according to tradition is not the way the way to Truth! And I'm assuming you want IT.
445 posted on 12/05/2010 12:01:22 PM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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To: presently no screen name

>> How can I misquote when I posted it as it is in THE WORD? What’s wrong with you? <<

What translation are you using then? Because your citation is inaccurate.

>> Jesus said but more blessed - does NOT discount Mary but it clearly shows His response to the lady esteeming her. Do you know anyone else who does that? Are they hearing and obeying? <<

Are you not counting Mary among those who obeyed? Your entire argument is based on the false notion that there exists a superlative in Jesus’ response. There is none.

>> Always inserting ‘your beliefs’ according to tradition is not the way the way to Truth! <<

So inserting your beliefs counter to the tradition to the disciples, as Protestants do, is? Look, people are going to interpret and understand the bible differently. The question is whether that interpretation is going to be based on the tradition handed down to us by the disciples, or on the way you reflexively think makes the most sense, because it was the way you were taught to since childhood by some preachers?

The Blessed Virgin Mary is honored among Catholics, Orthodox, Copts, Indo-Thomists and all the ancient traditions. Sure there are some distinctions made; the Orthodox reject the formulation of the Immaculate Conception, not because they reject the sinlessness of Mary, but because they take issue with St. Augustine formulation of Original Sin. Yet they still believe her to be sinless, ever-virgin, consumed bodily into Heaven, and venerable. This denegration of Mary is a modern invention, opposed even by the first generations of Protestants. Even in cultures isolated from Rome since the earliest centuries of the Church, Mary is still venerated as a prefiguring of the Church.

So, what’s wrong with you?


486 posted on 12/05/2010 1:38:17 PM PST by dangus
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