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To: bibletruth

Just so you know:

The Catholic Church has repeatedly rejected the title of “Mediatrix” for the Blessed Virgin Mary and any saint.

It does appear in unapproved literature by several non-heretical Catholic groups; the reasoning is that Mary, as all saints do, prays for us on our behalf. Thus, they mediate. However, Mary prays to Christ, the Son, for his mediation on our behalf to the father; she does not pray instead of us, she prays with us.

Christ’s mediation is different. He does not atone with us, he atones for us. Our participation in any atonement is not salvific, Thus, his mediation is of a different nature than any mediation any saint performs; the mediation of saints cannot rescue us from Hell, as did the mediation of Christ.

Thus, in the sense that Christ mediates for us, he alone mediates for us, and it is confusing, therefore, to call anyone else “mediator” or “mediatrix.”


20 posted on 12/03/2010 5:21:49 PM PST by dangus
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To: dangus
Just so you know:

The Catholic Church has repeatedly rejected the title of “Mediatrix” for the Blessed Virgin Mary and any saint.

Ya know, you guys tell us things like this all the time...I'm sure you are sincere and wouldn't intentionally lie to us but you guys seem to be so uninformed about your religion...

During his Angelus message last Sunday (March 21, 2010), Pope Benedict referred to Mary as the "Mediatrix of grace for every penitent sinner." This comes just days before the March 25 "Day of Dialogue on the Fifth Marian Dogma" to be held in the Vatican Forum not far from St. Peter's Basilica.

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59 posted on 12/04/2010 2:53:23 AM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: dangus

Wrong...the only one praying for us in heaven is the Holy Spirit and Christ. No one else alive or dead can know the thoughts or hearts of men. There is a great speration between those in heaven and us. If one thinks they are seeing a spirit..they are being deceived by the enemy of God...who changes himself into an angel of light...in a heartbeat!


103 posted on 12/04/2010 11:56:33 AM PST by caww
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To: dangus; bibletruth

That’s too convoluted.

Why can’t the Catholic church keep it simple and go right to the Father as Jesus told us to and taught us to in the Lord’s Prayer?


169 posted on 12/04/2010 1:46:10 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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