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To: chesley

Thanks for your reply.

Yes, Pope’s are men with all that entails.

I wasn’t talking about the pope. I am talking about the doctrines and creeds and Christian faith described by the Church that Christ established and that the gates of hell will not prevail against.

The fact that there have been good and bad popes and bishops yet the Church and the Faith continues is testament to the wisdom of Jesus in its establishment with Christ as its head, the apostles and their successors with authority, and the guidance - of the Church - by the Holy Spirit.

The Church is not the pope or any man.

Further, your alternative is the authority of yourself or perhaps Calvin or Luther or someone else - all of whom we can assume have the same limitations you note for the pope preventing you from accepting the authority of the Church.

So, you haven’t decreased your problem of accepting the authority of man, you’ve increased it.

Thanks for your reply.


134 posted on 11/30/2010 3:28:31 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
So, you haven’t decreased your problem of accepting the authority of man, you’ve increased it.

But at least I am responsible for my own mistakes.

139 posted on 11/30/2010 5:10:29 PM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man.)
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