[wagglebee]

Excellent post.

The YOPIOS crowd cannot seem to grasp the simple FACT that the KJV is based almost entirely on the Textus Receptus and even a little bit from the Vulgate.

They seem to ignore the FACT that the Textus Receptus was translated by Erasmus using Greek minuscules that mainly date from the 12th and 13th centuries (I don't believe that any of them were older than the 11th century) and that Erasmus used the Vulgate wherever necessary to "fill in the blanks."

They also ignore the FACT that Erasmus was a CATHOLIC PRIEST who strongly rejected the Reformation.

The simple FACT is that the Textus Receptus, Douay-Rheims AND the KJV are all little more than translations of the Vulgate (the KJV and Douay-Rheims Bible are far more similar to each other than either is to any modern Protestant or Catholic translation). When Saint Jerome translated the Vulgate he had the advantage of having access to Greek and Hebrew manuscripts that no longer exist (the YOPIOS crowd would love to claim there is some sort of conspiracy to destroy manuscripts, but the truth is that parchment cracks and deteriorates over time) and this means that it is almost certainly the best translation.

[Cronos]

So, let me raise the font so that the toot seekers get it

the KJV is based almost entirely on the Textus Receptus and even a little bit from the Vulgate.

the Textus Receptus was translated by Erasmus ... (he) used the Vulgate wherever necessary to "fill in the blanks."

Erasmus was a CATHOLIC PRIEST who strongly rejected the Reformation

the Latin Vulgate was/is the CATHOLIC translation by St. Jerome

So, The KJV is derived from two translations:
1. the Latin Vulgate of the Catholic Church and
2. a translation by a Catholic priest

So, I guess they got to now toss out the KJV just like they are tossing out the NIV? So what will happen to solo scriptura folks?

[Iscool]

Did you just make that up as you went along???

The simple FACT is that the Textus Receptus, Douay-Rheims AND the KJV are all little more than translations of the Vulgate

You are clueless...

and that Erasmus used the Vulgate wherever necessary to "fill in the blanks.

Nonsense...Erasmus corrected the Vulgate...

[RansomOttawa]

They seem to ignore the FACT that the Textus Receptus was translated by Erasmus . . . The simple FACT is that the Textus Receptus, Douay-Rheims AND the KJV are all little more than translations of the Vulgate

Sorry, what? The Textus Receptus is a critical text of the Greek New Testament, based on the readings of a handful of late Byzantine manuscripts and published in 1633. Erasmus didn't translate the TR from the Vulgate, apart from one or two brief passages where his half-dozen Greek manuscripts contained incomplete copies of Revelation. Jerome translated the Vulgate from Greek. You've got the cart before the horse.