[Cronos]

Evang: No, Jesus never drank strong drink and He didn’t create 150 gallons of rotten juice to throw a drunken party. Jesus Christ never created anything tainted, and fermented juice is tainted.

Ahah, redaction and denying the miracle at Cana! Wooo! The rocky and bullwinkle cult strikes again!

Guys -- this is a perfect example of sola scriptura gone wild! Now it's breaking into sub-sults: sola KJVa versus sola NIVa etc. etc.

[Mad Dawg]

fermented juice is tainted.

Is risen bread dough tainted?

The problem with freshly pressed grape juice is to keep it from fermenting. You don't have to 'pitch' it with yeast (unless, as is wise, you want to make sure that good strains of yeast outnumber the bad.) Wild yeasts will start "working" right away. Unless you pasteurize the cloudy must after filtering, it will ferment, "and that right early."

[mnehring]

He didn’t create 150 gallons of rotten juice to throw a drunken party. Jesus Christ never created anything tainted, and fermented juice is tainted.

Wow, now there is some massive twisting of scripture (actually, I've seen this a bunch). The one I love is when they use the contradiction that the 'juice' wasn't actually wine, but at the same time, they say it was watered down to purify water that couldn't be drunk. You can't have it both ways. Also, their justification regarding wine not being wine contradicts so many biblical passages, it isn't even funny. They should just admit they have a problem with booze instead of twisting the bible to say something it doesn't.

[ravenwolf]

Guys — this is a perfect example of sola scriptura gone wild! Now it’s breaking into sub-sults: sola KJVa versus sola NIVa etc. etc.

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The funny thing is that many people would not admit that Jesus drink wine many years before the N.I.V. even came out which was 1978.

Appears to me they are trying to make Jesus over to be good enough for them.