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Text Of The Nauvoo Expositor That Got Joe And Hyrum Killed
The Mormon Curtain ^ | Nov 18, 2010

Posted on 11/28/2010 12:27:04 AM PST by delacoert

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To: Normandy; MHGinTN
Dale Bills, a spokesman for the church said

Amazing that a "spokesman" can be more correct than early prophets.

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141 posted on 12/02/2010 2:36:58 PM PST by greyfoxx39 ("People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them." Eric Hoffer)
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To: greyfoxx39

Praise to the man who communed with Jehovah!

You seem to over look this....

Jesus annointed that Prophet and Seer.

Or other LDS hymns

Lord, I Would Follow Thee

Savior, may I learn to love thee,
Walk the path that thou hast shown,
Pause to help and lift another,
Finding strength beyond my own.
Savior, may I learn to love thee-
Lord, I would follow thee.

Who am I to judge another
When I walk imperfectly?
In the quiet heart is hidden
Sorrow that the eye can’t see.
Who am I to judge another?
Lord, I would follow thee.

I would be my brother’s keeper;
I would learn the healer’s art.
To the wounded and the weary
I would show a gentle heart.
I would be my brother’s keeper-
Lord, I would follow thee.

Savior, may I love my brother
As I know thou lovest me,
Find in thee my strength, my beacon,
For thy servant I would be.
Savior, may I love my brother-
Lord, I would follow thee.

To say the LDS do not love their Savior is bearing false Witness greyfoxx39

Here are just a few hymns..

Mormon Women sing “Lord, I Would Follow Thee”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDE1nJnfEkA

More Holiness Give Me”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_vhY6ZMzPM&feature=related

Ill go where you want me to go
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFQPciUtzQ0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WzDpy9aayo&feature=related


142 posted on 12/02/2010 3:54:52 PM PST by restornu (Do unto others as you would have them do unto you!)
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To: restornu; Religion Moderator
To say the LDS do not love their Savior is bearing false Witness greyfoxx39

Don't put words into my mouth in order to call me a liar.

Show me the song that mentions "soldiers of the cross" as I said.

"There aren't any "soldiers of the cross mentions in mormon hymnbooks"

143 posted on 12/02/2010 4:01:14 PM PST by greyfoxx39 ("People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them." Eric Hoffer)
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To: greyfoxx39; MHGinTN; Normandy
Dale Bills, a spokesman for the church said

Amazing that a "spokesman" can be more correct than early prophets. [GF]

LOL.

You've hit on the head, GF, as what Mormonism has come to: Spins by spinning tops in PR garb.

They are the "true" authority of the Lds "church" (Lds Inc.)

Corporate anything is anchored by PRism. Even more true with Lds, Inc.

Me? I think a lot of these PR types and PR Mormon apologists perhaps played too much UNO when they were younger and became too fixated with trump cards.

But that's only me.

144 posted on 12/02/2010 4:44:19 PM PST by Colofornian ("So how do LDS deal with the [Adam-God] phenomenon? WE DON'T; WE SIMPLY SET IT ASIDE" - BYU prof)
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To: restornu; greyfoxx39
You seem to over look this....Jesus annointed that Prophet and Seer...To say the LDS do not love their Savior is bearing false Witness greyfoxx39 Here are just a few hymns..

Resty, you seemed to overlook all of the other Mormon saviors (see below). So when you say Lds love their savior, do they love all of them?

Can you pinpoint the Mormon hymns to these "saviors" for us?

Quote 1: “The work of saving the dead has practically been reserved for the dispensation of the fullness of times, when the Lord shall restore all things. It is, therefore, the duty of the Latter-day Saints to see that it is accomplished. WE cannot do it all at once, but will have the 1,000 years of the millennium to do it in. In that time the work must be done in behalf of the dead of the previous 6,000 years, for all who need it.” Lds "prophet" Joseph Fielding Smith (a different Joseph F. Smith than above), Doctrines of Salvation 2:166

Quote 2: " ...we are the only people that know how to save our progenitors, how to save ourselves, and how to save our posterity in the celestial kingdom of God;...we in fact are the saviours of the world..." (Lds "prophet" John Taylor, Journal of Discourses, vol.6, p.163)

Quote 3: "... mortals have to be saviors on Mount Zion, acting by proxy for the dead." (LDS "prophet" Joseph Fielding Smith, The Way to Perfection, p. 325)

Quote 4: "We know something about our progenitors, and God has taught us how to be saviors for them by being baptized for them in the flesh, that they may live according to God in the Spirit.” (LDS "prophet" John Taylor, March 20,1870, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 14, 3/20/1870)

Quote 5: "He was the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. On every earth. How many earths are there?...Consequently every earth has its redeemer..." (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 14, p. 71, 1870)

145 posted on 12/02/2010 4:50:39 PM PST by Colofornian ("So how do LDS deal with the [Adam-God] phenomenon? WE DON'T; WE SIMPLY SET IT ASIDE" - BYU prof)
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To: delacoert; All
From the original intro of the Nauvoo Expositor article: We would ask him on the other hand, if the overthrow of the Church was not inevitable, to which he [Joseph Smith] often replies, that we would all go to Hell together, and convert it into a heaven, by casting the Devil out; and says he, Hell is by no means the place this world of fools suppose it to be, but on the contrary, it is quite an agreeable place; to which we would now reply, he can enjoy it if he is determined not to desist from his evil ways; but as for us, and ours, we will serve the Lord our God! It is absurd for men to assert that all is well, while wicked and corrupt men are seeking our destruction, by a perversion of sacred things; for all is not well, while whoredoms and all manner of abominations are practiced under the cloak of religion.

So, Joseph Smith said he would convert "hell" into heaven, eh? And that Hell is by no means the place this world of fools suppose it to be, but on the contrary, it is quite an agreeable place. Hmm...

Well, that goes along well with what Smith often said:

Of all the teachings that was most horrific about what Smith taught, this was the topper...1844: "...you have got to learn how to be Gods yourselves...going from one small degree to another, and from a small capacity to a great one...from exaltation to exaltation, until you...are able to dwell... (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pp. 346-347)

Well, "until you...are able to dwell" where? WHERE were the "ghost-lights" -- the demon-lights of Smith telling him where he & his followers would dwell??? It's right there on p. 347: "until you...are able to dwell in everlasting burnings." Whoaaa.

Smith must have felt the guilt gnawing at him from no assurance of forgiveness of sins; but he wouldn't let go of his "everlasting burnings" teaching late in life: "Those who have done wrong always have that wrong gnawing them. Immortality dwells in everlasting burnings." p. 367

These spirits craving their own "immortality" as false gods wouldn't let go of Smith...and actually occasionally told him the truth...as they did about "everlasting burnings"...They had the last laugh at Smith's -- and his followers' -- expense.

If you think I made up these quotes, look them up for yourselves...
Ask yourself...why would Joseph Smith, if he was a true "restored prophet" of God wait until the almost very end of his life to introduce the concept of "learning how to become gods yourselves" to people?

Ask yourself...why do I want to be linked with a religion that is more obsessed with the dead than ANY religion ever!!!

Run! Sprint!

146 posted on 12/02/2010 5:22:55 PM PST by Colofornian ("So how do LDS deal with the [Adam-God] phenomenon? WE DON'T; WE SIMPLY SET IT ASIDE" - BYU prof)
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To: greyfoxx39

That is how much you know Page 246 in our hymnal
http://lds.org/churchmusic/detailmusicPlayer/index.html?searchlanguage=1&searchcollection=1&searchseqstart=246&searchsubseqstart= &searchseqend=246&searchsubseqend=ZZZ

As sung by a LDS.
Onward Christian Soldiers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-14Kqsm_70


147 posted on 12/02/2010 5:45:45 PM PST by restornu (Do unto others as you would have them do unto you!)
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To: restornu
Do not accuse another Freeper of telling a lie or bearing false witness. It attributes motive, the intent to deceive, and is therefore a form of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want but do not make it personal.

148 posted on 12/02/2010 7:23:37 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: restornu

Hi Resty - Placemarker


149 posted on 12/02/2010 8:45:36 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: restornu
Lifting a Christian hymn and placing it in a mormon songbook doesn't make it a "mormon hymn".


150 posted on 12/03/2010 6:08:35 AM PST by greyfoxx39 ("People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them." Eric Hoffer)
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To: greyfoxx39
Another word from the bitter anti - LDS fruit bowl....


151 posted on 12/03/2010 6:15:42 AM PST by restornu (Do unto others as you would have them do unto you!)
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To: restornu

Your tagline and your posts have that mormonesque duplicity thing goin’ on, Resty! Perhaps if you put some raisins and honey in your morning oatmeal the bitterness would subside for you.


152 posted on 12/03/2010 7:36:37 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN
Lurkers can't possibly miss the two-faced  double-dealing, double-tongued, duplicitous, Janus-faced, double-faced, ambidextrous, deceitful
dishonest, dishonorable sacrilegious, profane irreverent   nature of some who can't defend mormonism with facts but resort to attacks.

153 posted on 12/03/2010 8:24:35 AM PST by greyfoxx39 ("People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them." Eric Hoffer)
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To: MHGinTN; Paragon Defender; DelphiUser

Golly gee MHGinTN it is anti LDS that is daily producing bitter fruits!:)


154 posted on 12/03/2010 1:30:35 PM PST by restornu (You will know them by their fruits..RF anties LDS specialty is daily gathering thorns and thistles)
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To: Normandy
 

I have found that Mormons have a lot in common with other Christians. We have the Bible in common, a belief in Jesus Christ’s teachings, his divinity, resurrection, second coming, etc.

2 Kings 17:41
 
Even while these people were worshiping the Lord, they were serving their idols.
To this day their children and grandchildren continue to do as their fathers did.

155 posted on 12/03/2010 1:37:01 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going.)
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To: Normandy
I have found that Mormons have a lot in common with other Christians.


 
 

In the heat of the Missouri “Mormon War” of 1838, Joseph Smith made the following claim,

It is most interesting that a self-proclaimed Christian prophet would liken himself to Mohammed, the founder of Islam. His own comparison invites us to take a closer look as well. And when we do, we find some striking—and troubling—parallels. Consider the following.


 

Endnotes

[1] Joseph Smith made this statement at the conclusion of a speech in the public square at Far West, Missouri on October 14, 1838. This particular quote is documented in Fawn M. Brodie, No Man Knows My History, second edition, (New York: Alfred A. Knopf, 1971), p. 230–231. Fawn Brodie’s footnote regarding this speech contains valuable information, and follows. “Except where noted, all the details of this chapter [16] are taken from the History of the [Mormon] Church. This speech, however, was not recorded there, and the report given here is based upon the accounts of seven men. See the affidavits of T.B. Marsh, Orson Hyde, George M. Hinkle, John Corrill, W.W. Phelps, Samson Avard, and Reed Peck in Correspondence, Orders, etc., pp. 57–9, 97–129. The Marsh and Hyde account, which was made on October 24, is particularly important. Part of it was reproduced in History of the [Mormon] Church, Vol. III, p. 167. See also the Peck manuscript, p. 80. Joseph himself barely mentioned the speech in his history; see Vol. III, p. 162.”

156 posted on 12/03/2010 1:38:29 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going.)
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To: restornu
Once upon a time there were many more loving and gracious souls that dignified these corridors.

Why did YOU leave PRESBYTERIANism?

Did the MORMONs have better dinners and get togethers?

(I know you what no clue as to what was supposedly wrong with their theology.)

157 posted on 12/03/2010 1:42:12 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going.)
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To: greyfoxx39
April 2005 version
 
 
 
 
 
Praise to the man who communed with Jehovah!
Jesus annointed that Prophet and Seer.
Blessed to open the last dispensation,
Kings shall extol him, and nations revere.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.
 
 

Praise to his mem'ry, he died as a martyr;
Honored and blest be his ever great name!
Long shall his blood, which was shed by assasins,
Plead unto heav'n while the earth lauds his fame.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.

 

Great is his glory and endless his priesthood.
Ever and ever the keys he will hold.
Faithful and true he will enter his kingdom,
Crowned in the midst of the prophets of old.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.

 

Sacrifice brings forth the blessings of heaven;
Earth must atone for the blood of that man.
Wake up the world for the conflict of justice.
Millions shall know 'Brother Joseph' again.
 
Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with
Gods
, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.


158 posted on 12/03/2010 1:51:00 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going.)
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To: Colofornian
Amazing that a "spokesman" can be more correct than early prophets.
159 posted on 12/03/2010 1:52:27 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going.)
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To: restornu

160 posted on 12/03/2010 1:54:33 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going.)
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