Posted on 11/27/2010 11:20:05 AM PST by Salvation
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Title of the Blessed Virgin as sinless from her first moment of existence. In the words of Pope Pius IX's solemn definition, made in 1854, "The most holy Virgin Mary was, in the first moment of her conception, by a unique gift of grace and privilege of almighty God, in view of the merits of Jesus Christ the Redeemer of mankind, preserved free from all stain of original sin." This means that since the first moment of her human existence the mother of Jesus was preserved from the common defect of estrangement from God, which humanity in general inherits through the sin of Adam. Her freedom from sin was an unmerited gift of God or special grace, and an exception to the law, or privilege, which no other created person has received.
Neither the Greek nor Latin Fathers explicitly taught the Immaculate Conception, but they professed it implicitly in two fundamental ways. Mary, they said, was most perfect in purity of morals and holiness of life. St. Ephrem (c. 306-73) addressed Christ and Mary with the words "You and Your mother are the only ones who are totally beautiful in every way. For in You, O Lord, there is no stain, and in Your mother no stain." Mary was described as the antithesis of Eve. Again in Ephrem, "Mary and Eve [were] two people without guilt. Later one became the cause of our death, the other cause of our life." While implicit in the early writers, the Immaculate Conception had to be clarified before becoming explicit dogma. Main credit for this goes to the Franciscan John Duns Scotus (c. 1264-1308), who introduced the idea of pre-redemption in order to reconcile Mary's freedom from original sin with her conception before the coming of Christ. (Etym. Latin im-, not + maculare, to stain.)
St. John Neumann and the Doctrine of the Immaculate Conception (Catholic Caucus)
Our Jewish Roots: The Immaculate Conception [Ecumenical]
I Love that Woman! My Unworthy Reflections on The Immaculate Conception
Mary Immaculate: Patroness of the United States [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]
Catholic/Orthodox Caucus: The Immaculate Conception: A Marvelous Theme - Novena Starts Nov. 30
THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION - Satan's Mighty Foe(Catholic Caucus)
Historian reveals how Pius IX decided to proclaim dogma of Immaculate Conception (Catholic Caucus)
The Immaculate Vs. the Proud
Immaculate Conception Novena -- starts November 30th [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]
Blessed John Duns Scotus Champion Of Mary's Immaculate Conception (CATHOLIC CAUCUS)
The Crusade of Mary Immaculate - St. Maximilian Kolbe (Catholic Caucus)
The Early Church Fathers on the Immaculate Conception - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus
Three Reasons the Church’s Enemies Hate The Immaculate Conception
Her saving grace - the origins of the Immaculate Conception
Mary Is a Model Who Works With Us and in Us
U.S. Catholic bishops to renew consecration of nation to Immaculate Conception
Catholic Meditation: To the Immaculate Conception on this Election Day
My visit to the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception
On Solemnity of Immaculate Conception - "In Mary Shines the Eternal Goodness of the Creator"
Pope makes pilgrimage to Mary statue in Rome, marking the feast of the Immaculate Conception
Pope: Mary the Immaculate Conception... (text of BXVI speech)
"Tota pulchra es, Maria, et macula originalis non est in te" (The Immaculate Conception)
The Immaculate Conception — Essential to the Faith
"Who Are You, Immaculate Conception?"
TURKEY Ephesus: The Feast of the Immaculate Conception at Mary’s House
Coming Dec 8th. Feast of the "Immaculate Conception"
Why the Immaculate Conception?
Catholic Encyclopedia: Immaculate Conception (The Doctrine and Its Roots)
The Immaculate Conception of Our Lady December 8
Mary's Immaculate Conception: A Memorable Anniversary
Ineffabilis Deus: 8 December 1854 (Dogma of the Immaculate Conception)
Why do we believe in the Immaculate Conception?
John Paul II goes to Lourdes; reflections on the Immaculate Conception
Your Praises We Sing--on the Dogma of the Proclamation of the Immaculate Conception, Dec. 8th
Eastern Christianity and the Immaculate Conception (Q&A From EWTN)
Memorandum on the Immaculate Conception [Newman]
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I’m looking for a revelation of the basis for this doctrine in the Holy Scriptures, but thus far to no avail.
But said scriptures do inform us that the divinity of Jesus, the Christ, the only begotten Son of God, emanates from and is embedded in his identity as a full participant in the Godhead, and in no wise is dependent on any attribute of any mortal being.
>I’m looking for a revelation of the basis for this doctrine in the Holy Scriptures, but thus far to no avail.<
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You didn’t look at all three sources on which the teachings of the Catholic Church is based: (1) Sacred Scripture, (2) Sacred Tradition, (3) Magisterium.
Try searching in (2) and (3).
Fine, whatever. Just don’t confuse the Immaculate Conception of Mary (conceived by natural means, but without original sin) with the Virgin Birth (conceived by divine means) of Jesus.
'No stain' indeed. Just because a woman has sex, she becomes stained?
Madness
You appear to have totally misunderstood the post, but thanks for playing, anyway.
Well thanks. You could explain it, though, because that’s how it comes across to us unenlightened Pagans.
Did you read the original post, at all? It doesn’t say anything about sex. Maybe you’re obsessed.
Much is made of Mary's virginity, so of course sex SEEMS to the point. If I'm wrong, then tell me so.
You are wrong.
The stain, originated in Adam and Eve, our first parents, is disobedience to God. In Christian belief, all descendants of Adam and Eve have a nature weakened by hereditary sin.
There is no suggestion that Mary was conceived by anything other than natural sexual relations between her parents, or that there is anything sinful in normal sexual relations between spouses.
The contention is the Mary was free from the hereditary effects of sin, in order to pass a sinless human nature to Jesus. Jesus was conceived miraculously, not through sexual intercourse, in order to be the Son of God rather than of a human father.
Disobedience starting with Adam and Eve.
Mary did NOT disobey God, but instead said “Yes” without which we would have no Christ.
Have you ever read the account of the angel Gabriel’ s annoucement to Mary (Annuciation) in Luke?
Thank you. That’s exactly the explanation I was looking for.
Pleased that I could help! If you don’t believe Jesus was different in any way from the common run of humanity, you probably wonder why we care about this other stuff. However, it is a cohesive set of beliefs.
As I said in #6, if you know that Immaculate Conception (of Mary) and Virgin Birth (of Jesus) aren’t the same thing, you’re way ahead of the general public.
Oh I’ve long known the Immaculate Conception was different to the birth of Jesus. But you’re right, not a lot of people know that ;-)
If I ever converted to Christianity, the Catholic Church would be where I belong, absolutely.
I’ll say a prayer for your conversion ;-), and I hope you’re having a happy Turkey-Leftovers Day, with no turkey-bone soup.
**If I ever converted to Christianity, the Catholic Church would be where I belong, absolutely.**
We welcome you with open arms.
Find a church close to you where you can sit down with the priest, get some questions andswered and enroll in a RCIA class.
Explanation of RCIA coming — it’s Catholic jargon. LOL!
How Does a Person Become a Catholic? [Ecumenical]
Beginning Catholic: The RCIA Inquiry Stage In the Catholic Church [Ecumenical]
Beginning Catholic: A Strong Start in the Faith: The Catholic RCIA Stages [Ecumenical]
Lutheran Wife has questions before joining Catholic Church
Belleville Bishop Braxton in Brouhaha with his priests (title mine)
A Ramble through My "New Catholic" Wish List {RCIA referenced]
Help with RCIA (Vanity)
Catholic Liturgy - Funeral Masses for a Suicide And More on Confession for RCIA Candidates
Confession for RCIA Candidates And More on the Prayer of the Faithful
RCIA and Holy Saturday
But the best to you and yours and I hope you had a great Thanksgiving!
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