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Ten Lies I Told as a Mormon Missionary
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| Loren Franck
Posted on 11/08/2010 3:37:09 PM PST by delacoert
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To: Hugin
If a religions actions that are objectionable, thats cleary a different story.I'd guess you'd have a different opinion back when J. Smith was sitting on this mormon egg.
To: Hugin
When Mormon terrorists start murdering non-Mormons I'll give a rat's ass.If you really don't care; then why are you replying in a RELIGION forum?
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posted on
11/08/2010 5:20:28 PM PST
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Osage Orange
Osage, what is your argument on who they have to “account to” when it comes to LDS assets? Is it my business to comb through the books of your church? Does the Pope owe me an explanation for the enormous amount of wealth the Vatican possesses? ...magritte
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posted on
11/08/2010 5:21:45 PM PST
by
magritte
("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
To: Colofornian
Or THIS 'scripture'...
THE FIRST BOOK OF NEPHI
HIS REIGN AND MINISTRY
CHAPTER 14
An angel tells Nephi of the blessings and cursings to fall upon the GentilesThere are only two churches: the Church of the Lamb of God and the church of the devilThe saints of God in all nations are persecuted by the great and abominable churchThe apostle John shall write concerning the end of the world. Between 600 and 592 B.C.
1
And it shall come to pass, that if the
aGentiles shall hearken unto the Lamb of God in that day that he shall manifest himself unto them in word, and also in
bpower, in very deed, unto the
ctaking away of their
dstumbling blocks
2 And harden not their hearts against the Lamb of God, they shall be numbered among the seed of thy father; yea, they shall be
anumbered among the house of Israel; and they shall be a
bblessed people upon the
cpromised land forever; they shall be no more brought down into captivity; and the house of Israel shall no more be confounded.
3 And that great
apit, which hath been digged for them by
that great and abominable church, which was founded by the devil and his children, that he might lead away the souls of men down to hellyea, that great pit which hath been digged for the destruction of men shall be filled by those who digged it, unto their utter destruction, saith the Lamb of God; not the destruction of the soul, save it be the casting of it into that
bhell which hath no end.
4 For behold, this is according to the
acaptivity of the devil, and also according to the justice of God, upon all those who will work wickedness and abomination before him.
5 And it came to pass that the angel spake unto me, Nephi, saying: Thou hast beheld that if the Gentiles repent it shall be
awell with them; and thou also knowest concerning the covenants of the Lord unto the house of Israel; and thou also hast heard that whoso
brepenteth not must perish.
6 Therefore,
awo be unto the Gentiles if it so be that they harden their hearts against the Lamb of God.
7 For the time cometh, saith the Lamb of God, that I will work a great and a
amarvelous work among the children of men; a
bwork which shall be everlasting, either on the one hand or on the othereither to the convincing of them unto
cpeace and
dlife eternal, or unto the deliverance of them to the hardness of their hearts and the blindness of their minds unto their being brought down into captivity, and also into destruction, both temporally and spiritually, according to the
ecaptivity of the devil, of which I have spoken.
8 And it came to pass that when the angel had spoken these words, he said unto me: Rememberest thou the
acovenants of the Father unto the house of Israel? I said unto him, Yea.
9 And it came to pass that he said unto me: Look, and
behold that great and abominable church, which is the mother of abominations, whose founder is the adevil.
10 And he said unto me:
Behold there are save atwo churches only; the one is the church of the Lamb of God, and
the bother is the church of the cdevil; wherefore,
dwhoso belongeth
not to the church of the Lamb of God belongeth to th
at great church, which is the mother of abominations; and she is the ewhore of all the earth.
11 And it came to pass that I looked and beheld
the whore of all the earth, and she sat upon many
awaters; and she had dominion over
ball the earth, among all nations, kindreds, tongues, and people.
12 And it came to pass that I beheld the church of the Lamb of God, and its numbers were
afew, because of the wickedness and abominations of the whore who sat upon many waters; nevertheless, I beheld that the church of the Lamb, who were the saints of God, were also upon
ball the face of the earth; and their dominions upon the face of the earth were small, because of the wickedness of the great whore whom I saw.
13 And it came to pass that I beheld that the great mother of abominations did gather together multitudes upon the face of all the earth, among all the nations of the Gentiles, to
afight against the Lamb of God.
14 And it came to pass that I, Nephi, beheld the power of the Lamb of God, that it descended upon the saints of the church of the Lamb, and upon the covenant people of the Lord, who were scattered upon all the face of the earth; and they were
aarmed with
brighteousness and with the
cpower of God in great glory.
15 And it came to pass that I beheld that the wrath of God was
apoured out upon that great and abominable church, insomuch that there were wars and rumors of wars among all the
bnations and kindreds of the earth.
16 And as there began to be
awars and rumors of wars among all the nations which belonged to
the mother of abominations, the angel spake unto me, saying: Behold, the wrath of God is upon the mother of harlots; and behold, thou seest all these things
17 And when the
aday cometh that the
bwrath of God is poured out upon
1 nephi 14 of all the earth, whose founder is the devil, then, at that day, the
cwork of the Father shall commence, in preparing the way for the fulfilling of his
dcovenants, which he hath made to his people who are of the house of Israel.
18 And it came to pass that the angel spake unto me, saying: Look!
19 And I looked and beheld a man, and he was dressed in a white robe.
20 And the angel said unto me: Behold
aone of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
21 Behold, he shall
asee and
bwrite the
cremainder of these things; yea, and also many things which have been.
22 And he shall also write concerning the end of the world.
23 Wherefore, the things which he shall write are just and true; and behold they are written in the
abook which thou beheld proceeding out of the mouth of the Jew; and at the time they proceeded out of the mouth of the Jew, or, at the time the book proceeded out of the mouth of the Jew, the things which were written were plain and pure, and most
bprecious and easy to the understanding of all men.
24 And behold, the things which this
aapostle of the Lamb shall write are many things which thou hast seen; and behold, the remainder shalt thou see.
25 But the things which thou shalt see hereafter thou shalt not write; for the Lord God hath ordained the apostle of the Lamb of God that he should
awrite them.
26 And also others who have been, to them hath he shown all things, and they have
awritten them; and they are
bsealed up to come forth in their purity, according to the truth which is in the Lamb, in the own due time of the Lord, unto the house of Israel.
27 And I, Nephi, heard and bear record, that the name of the apostle of the Lamb was
aJohn, according to the word of the angel.
28 And behold, I, Nephi, am forbidden that I should write the remainder of the things which I saw and heard; wherefore the things which I have written sufficeth me; and I have written but a small part of the things which I saw.
29 And I bear record that I saw the things which my
afather saw, and the angel of the Lord did make them known unto me.
30 And now I make an end of speaking concerning the things which I saw while I was
acarried away in the spirit; and if all the things which I saw are not written, the things which I have written are
btrue. And thus it is. Amen.
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posted on
11/08/2010 5:22:38 PM PST
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: sitetest
“That doesnt make them lies to those who believe them.”
People in cults also believe what they are taught for awhile, but it is still false.
To: Hugin
Okay...so why aren't the member's told what the assets are? And when they ask....they are harassed, badgered, and threatened!!
Tax exempt?? HA!! Much of what LDS, INC does is certainly taxable, because some is "church, and some is LDS, INC..." ....but who really knows????
Millions of acres of land....
Millions of head of cattle....
Billion dollar resorts...Million dollar malls!!!???
Where in the world does all this money come from????
To: Hugin
When Mormon terrorists start murdering non-Mormons I'll give a rat's ass.
Mountain Meadows Massacre. End of story.
To: Tennessee Nana; delacoert
From the article: Lie #5:
We Have a Living ProphetThink about the 20th century. Two World Wars + Vietnam, Korea and all the other warfare. Abortion on demand opened up a front. Tremendous violence worldwide. New ways of theft never before imagined. Exploitation with expanded frontlines...like porn and then porn-on-demand. Communism spreading like wildfire. Hard, hard, hard times of the Depression. Having to suffer under Democratic leadership. Assassinations abound. Racism run amok.
Now imagine you're one of the 11 Lds "prophets" during the 20th century...With all of the above...with the earth needing to hear from a "living" prophet, how many canonized revelations came from these 11 20th century "Living prophets" of the Mormons?
One...Only One...
And even then it took 60 years or so for Lds to declare it as "SCRIPTURE."
And what did they deem to be as "scripture" by a "now-dead-'living' prophet?"
Well this old Lds "prophet" had recently lost family members and was still grieving them...he was in ill health -- was about to die...and he had this supposed vision of the "dead"...
For more info, see:
Becoming scripture
Also see:
And I Saw the Hosts of the Dead, Both Small and Great": Joseph F. Smith, World War I, and His Visions of the Dead
The Doctrine of Temple Work
PREACHING THE GOSPEL IN THE SPIRIT WORLD: What Did Peter Really Teach?
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posted on
11/08/2010 5:28:20 PM PST
by
Colofornian
("So how do LDS deal with the [Adam-God] phenomenon? WE DON'T; WE SIMPLY SET IT ASIDE" - BYU prof)
To: Osage Orange
Where in the world does all this money come from???? Mandatory tithing?
To: Colofornian
Protestants and Catholics said much the same things about each other, and slaughtered one another over it for hundreds of years. Somehow they got past it.
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posted on
11/08/2010 5:31:17 PM PST
by
Hugin
("Most people will tell you their bad intentions if you take the time to listen"--- Open Range)
To: Imnidiot
Actually I think it’s being called a bigot, hater, arsonist, and a murderer...among other things...that sorta chaps my hide...So to speak.
To: sitetest; delacoert
>>> these really arent lies, but rather beliefs with which the author now differs.
You noticed that too?
These daily bigot threads are sick.
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posted on
11/08/2010 5:32:10 PM PST
by
tlb
To: Graybeard58
It’s good “work” if you can get it.
To: Hugin
Protestants and Catholics said much the same things about each other, and slaughtered one another over it for hundreds of years. Somehow they got past it.Except we didn't create Revelation chapters 23, 24, 25, 26 & said "this is specifically what God said about you." Canonizing it as "scripture."
Big diff 'tween opinions stated by US -- vs. treating something as if GOD said it!!!
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posted on
11/08/2010 5:39:18 PM PST
by
Colofornian
("So how do LDS deal with the [Adam-God] phenomenon? WE DON'T; WE SIMPLY SET IT ASIDE" - BYU prof)
To: rickomatic
Mountain Meadows Massacre. End of story. If that was happening today, you would have a point. Of course Mormons were also murdered and burned out of their homes, which is why they went to Utah in the first place. But that isn't happening today either.
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posted on
11/08/2010 5:39:50 PM PST
by
Hugin
("Most people will tell you their bad intentions if you take the time to listen"--- Open Range)
To: magritte
My purpose...is to expose the mormon religion for what I think it is.
It was set up...as a sort of religious Ponzi scheme by J. Smith...a known person of dubious character..To be kind. And not to mention the flimsy baloney it was set up on....
Magritte..I double dog dare you to sit in a church and give and tithe for 2-5-9-12-17-30 years...and NOT search out..if it's good ground.
Is your church "doing all that they can"...or is your church "putting on a show"?
We are commanded to give to good ground....
Is your church with BILLIONS in assets....digging wells, building clinic's, treating people, etc...or building malls & hotels, and buying American cattle ranches, etc.?
These are good questions....and questions that "the church" of LDS, Inc....refuses to answer. Why?
To: tlb
Who's the bigot?
Name a couple or three.....
To: Osage Orange
************************************************************
Okay...so why aren’t the member’s told what the assets are? And when they ask....they are harassed, badgered, and threatened!!
Tax exempt?? HA!! Much of what LDS, INC does is certainly taxable, because some is “church, and some is LDS, INC...” ....but who really knows????
Millions of acres of land....
Millions of head of cattle....
Billion dollar resorts...Million dollar malls!!!???
Where in the world does all this money come from????
********************************************************
Everything above also applies to the Catholic Church. And the businesses they invest in certainly do pay taxes. So again, if people donate, and those donations are invested, why is it your business? You sound like a socialist.
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posted on
11/08/2010 5:52:32 PM PST
by
Hugin
("Most people will tell you their bad intentions if you take the time to listen"--- Open Range)
To: Hugin
When Mormon terrorists start murdering non-Mormons I’ll give a rat’s ().
______________________________________________
9/11...
1857
To: Hugin
Are you Catholic?
I doubt it...
It seems to me it's you that maybe is the socialist dope...that just gives his money to his masters...and never questions where it's going. Hey so be it...!! There are millions like you..!!
Wait a minute...I figure you don't give a dime to no one, Right?
Not to mention it is Biblical....to make sure that I as a Christian...am tithing, and giving to GOOD Churches and GOOD causes....!!
Not giving to building some Maui 5 Star Hotel.....
Hey, but...if you are good with that...then okay...But just know you are going against the Word of God.
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