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In 1823, at age 17, Joseph Smith was visited by an angelic being in his home in New York state:

“He called me by name, and said unto me that he was a messenger sent from the presence of God to me, and that his name was Moroni; that God had a work for me to do; and that my name should be had for good and evil among all nations, kindreds, and tongues, or that it should be both good and evil spoken of among all people” (http://lds.org/library/display/0,4945,104-1-3-1,00.html)

This prediction is being fulfilled. It doesn’t surprise me to hear the intense opposition and ridicule that has been directed towards him. It has always been the case with the servants of God.

I know that Joseph Smith was called by God to be a prophet in these latter days — this testimony has come to me and millions more through the witness of the Holy Ghost. I believe that his same witness can come to all who seek to know the truth from God through the prayer of faith, with a sincere desire to know the truth.

Normandy

In 1823, at age 17, Joseph Smith was visited by an angelic being in his home in New York state

ALL: you need to understand a few things Mormons believe about angels:
(1) A figure of the angel Moroni sits atop Mormon temples. The cross isn't the primary symbol of the Mormon church; this angel is.
(2) Who are angels according to Joseph Smith? And particularly who was Moroni?
Answer: "Moroni, who deposited the plates in a hill in Manchester, Ontario County, New York, being dead and raised again therefrom, appeared unto me, and told me where they were, and gave me directions how to obtain them." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119)

So who was Moroni per Smith? Why, he was a deceased spirit. A ghost. A ghost was the jumpstarter of Mormonism!

Smith went on to describe a "sister's" first vision in which "Many true things were spoken by this personage, and many things that were false. How, it may be asked, was this known to be a bad angel? (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 214)

So how, perchance, was Smith able to "distinguish" between a "good" angel and a "bad" one? Why, he answered that, too: "By the color of his hair; that is one of the signs that he can be known by..." (pp. 214-215)

Bottom-line, Smith had ZERO discernment on how to tell the difference between a demon masquerading as a ghost (Moroni), and a true angel.

In 1823, at age 17, Joseph Smith was visited by an angelic being in his home in New York state:

The other way Joseph Smith advocated that people discern between a...
..."just...angel",,,
...and a "deceiv[ing]...devil" (Mormon Doctrine & Covenants 129:4-8)
...is to "offer him your hand and request him to shake hands with you" (Mormon Doctrine & Covenants 129:4).
If you wind up shaking your hand with the devil, says ole Joe, "you will not feel anything; you may therefore detect him" (D&C 129:8).

So there ya go. Hair color and handshaking.

Tell me something. Would you buy even a used car from a used car dealer who told you the way you can discern between a well-maintenaced vehicle & and a lemon is the color of the car and the nature of the handshake of the dealer???

Perhaps with the servants of the god of Mormonism. I notice you give your 'testimony' of your bosom burning, but never seem able to address the actual quotes from your leadership. Below are a few of your peepstone sexual predator of married women prophet's teachings on whom the god of Mormonism is, from Joseph Smith AND more recent Mormon teachers. These are quotes from Momron sources, if that makes any difference to the reader:

“I learned a testimony concerning Abraham, and he reasoned concerning the Gods of heaven. '...Intelligences exist one above another, so that there is no end to them.' If Abraham reasoned thus--If Jesus Christ was the Son of God, and John discovered that God the Father of Jesus Christ had a Father, you may suppose that He had a Father also. Where was there ever a son without a father? And where was there ever a father without first being a son? Whenever did a tree or anything spring into existence without a progenitor? And everything comes in this way. Paul says that which is earthly is in the likeness of that which is heavenly. Hence if Jesus had a Father, can we not believe that He had a Father also? I despise the idea of being scared to death at such a doctrine, for the Bible is full of it. I want you to pay particular attention to what I am saying. Jesus said that the Father wrought precisely in the same way as His Father had done before Him. As the Father had done before? He laid down His life, and took it up the same as His Father had done before. (Joseph Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 373)

"We were begotten by our Father in Heaven; the person of our Father in Heaven was begotten on a previous heavenly world by His Father; and again, He was begotten by a still more ancient Father; and so on, from generation to generation, ... we wonder in our minds, how far back the genealogy extends, and how the first world was formed, and the first father was begotten" (Orson Pratt, The Seer, p.132).

In the beginning, the head of the Gods called a council of the Gods; and they came together and concocted a plan to create the world and people it. (Joseph Smith, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p. 5, 1844)

"Some people are troubled over the statements of the Prophet Joseph Smith.... The matter that seems such a mystery is the statement that our Father in heaven at one time passed through a life and death and is an exalted man. This is one of the mysteries.... The Prophet taught that our Father had a Father and so on. Is not this a reasonable thought, especially when we remember that the promises are made to us that we may become like him?" (Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, pp.10, 12).

“I will go back to the beginning, before the world was, to show what kind of a being God is. What sort of a being was God in the beginning? Open your ears and hear, all ye ends of the earth; for I am going to prove it to you by the Bible, and to tell you the designs of God in relation to the human race, and why he interferes with the affairs of man. God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted Man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens. That is the great secret. (Joseph Smith, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p. 3, 1844)

The above direct quotes from Momron sources reveal the truth about Momronism and why it is considered 'not Christianity in any shape or form' by all the major Christian denominations in the World. The god of Mormonism is a lie, just low enough in imaginary standing so that Mormons are encouraged to strive to someday be a god also.

In 1823, at age 17, Joseph Smith was visited by an angelic being in his home in New York state:

We agree on this point; but only a person with BLINDERS on would state it was NOT an Angel of LIGHT!!

KJV

Galatians 1:6-9

6. I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7. Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

ANYBODY???

Like this fine looking fellow???

2 Corinthians 11:12-15

12. But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.
13. For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

Like THESE guys??

http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/19#19

17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!

Ephesians 2:1-2

1. And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

1 Corinthians 4:17
For this cause have I sent unto you Timotheus, who is my beloved son, and faithful in the Lord, who shall bring you into remembrance of my ways which be in Christ, as I teach every where in every church.

1 Corinthians 11:2
Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you.

2 Thessalonians 2:15
Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

2 Timothy 1:13
Hold fast the form of sound words, which thou hast heard of me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.

2 Timothy 3:14-15
14. But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
15. And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.