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Church: Mormons can't lead Scouts
Charlotte Observer ^ | Oct. 19, 2010 | Tim Funk

Posted on 10/19/2010 8:21:21 AM PDT by Colofornian

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To: jdowntown

the reason Mormons are not Christians is because they do not believe in an extra-biblical doctrinal statement.
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AH NOOOOO

that would be...

the reason Mormons are not Christians is because they DO believe in an extra-biblical doctrinal statement.

or 2 or 12...

But that would not be the only reasons...


181 posted on 10/19/2010 11:37:39 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

You are so uninformed....

Mormons are polytheists and gnostics.

They have a false gospel and a counterfeit Jesus.


182 posted on 10/19/2010 11:39:15 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Ripliancum; SZonian

THAT is funny.

And I’m glad you are getting involved. All youth programs need good men.


183 posted on 10/19/2010 11:40:18 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: jdowntown
So if I understand things correctly, the reason Mormons are not Christians is because they do not believe in an extra-biblical doctrinal statement.

Are you asking me, or this church?

This church pointed both to extra-biblical revelations like the Book of Mormon (what their pastor said) and the Apostles creed (what their other churchworker said).

Of course, your point is obvious: You're saying, in effect, that first this church condemns the Mormons for adhering to extra-biblical revelations but then demands that you subscribe to a separate extra-biblical statement of faith.

So let's first talk about that.

#1, MANY churches and parachurch organizations demand as a condition of employment that you adhere to a statement of faith that may sum up parts of the Bible but is not in and of itself direct "scripture." And with greater filters being placed by churches, it often extends down to volunteer positions. I mean that's not unusual.

#2...what would you otherwise suggest? That a church have you read the Bible afresh, and then ask if you believe everything in it?

Unfortunately, in the case of what I call, "closed-eye Mormonism," it wouldn't help Mormons to see the vast distinctions of what they believe vs. what the Bible says. They somehow just gloss over glaring differences.

Examples:
(a) Do they believe God created everything from nothing (Hebrews 11:3)? (No Mormons believe God and Jesus only "organized" matter -- but didn't create it from nothing.)
(b) Have their leaders taught that Jesus is the only savior --like what John taught? (No. Brigham Young taught that all worlds have their own savior, and Lds "prophet" John Taylor taught that Mormons are "saviors," too via baptizing dead people)
(c) Have their leaders taught that only Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life? (No. One of the highest men in the hierarchy of the church in the 50s and 60s, Marion G. Romney, said that the LDS church is "the way, the truth, and the life.")

Anyway, you get the picture. The creeds were developed to define distinctions between orthodoxy and heresy. And since Mormons have redefined most biblical words...
...from damnation to "the fall" in the garden, to "salvation" to what an "heir" is, to "grace"...etc...
...then qualifying statements that sum up the Bible are needed.

184 posted on 10/19/2010 11:42:02 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: donozark

So says the Bible.

Again, Mormons ARE NOT CHRISTIANS in any way shape or form. That isn’t my opinion, that is biblical and historical.


185 posted on 10/19/2010 11:42:28 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: fishtank
You are so uninformed....

Mormons are polytheists and gnostics.

They have a false gospel and a counterfeit Jesus.

Many believe that polytheism, gnosticism and
paganism were promulgated at Nicea in 325 CE.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
186 posted on 10/19/2010 11:46:09 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: reaganaut
So you are right. They are wrong. Seems plausible.

Not all Christians feel the way you do toward Mormons. Fortunately...

187 posted on 10/19/2010 11:47:58 AM PDT by donozark (43 years of therapy made me the man I am today....)
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To: F15Eagle
you do realize that the accounts in Genesis are basically attributed to Moses’ teachings, around 1400 B.C. Eden’s river flowed to those four rivers, according to Genesis.

I agree with all that. As for where Eden was physically located I have no idea. I'm pretty sure Jackson County hadn't been incorporated at the time, though.

188 posted on 10/19/2010 11:48:44 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: SpringtoLiberty; Dilbert San Diego
I say we let the gov’t intervene. Seems like most posters don’t want this troop to be able to make their own decisions about their own troop. Call the Feds!

LOL

The irony always is that an article like this offends various people's "tolerance button" inside of them.

In fact, they become soooooo "tolerant" that they have to foist their "tolerance" upon those whom they just can't "tolerate."

Hence, they call in the feds, and we all learn a lesson in "tolerance" modeled by an intolerant govt called in by the intolerant "tolerant" squad acting in the name of "tolerance."

All by the people who sniff out any scent of "intolerance" in others...yet if they've been wearing their protective underwear for three years straight minus any washing, have lost the ability to catch what their internal wardrobe actually smells like!

189 posted on 10/19/2010 11:49:03 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: reaganaut
rigdon was a FORMER follower of the Barton Stone/Campbell Restoration Movement.

For a read on what A. Campbell thought of j.smiths writing

http://www.lds-mormon.com/campbell.shtml

190 posted on 10/19/2010 11:51:15 AM PDT by Bidimus1
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To: SZonian

Man, that’s killer! Not sure about those type of hikes, I’ll leave that to the young men. I ain’t the man I used to be.


191 posted on 10/19/2010 11:51:56 AM PDT by Ripliancum ("If a wise man contendeth with a foolish man, whether he rage or laugh, there is no rest." Prov.29:9)
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To: reaganaut

Thumbs up!! Thanks. The same to you.


192 posted on 10/19/2010 11:54:23 AM PDT by Ripliancum ("If a wise man contendeth with a foolish man, whether he rage or laugh, there is no rest." Prov.29:9)
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To: donozark; Colofornian

One man does not a pattern make.

- - - — - - -

Nope, but there is more than just one man...

www.mormonabuse.com


193 posted on 10/19/2010 11:55:55 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: donozark

More like sadly. If they did then more Christians would be concerned about telling Mormons the truth about Jesus rather than adopt a live and let live attitude.


195 posted on 10/19/2010 11:59:18 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: donozark
If there are Christians who do not feel Mormonism falls out side of the Christian faith then they are ignorant of LDS tenets and beliefs, sadly caught up in the modern “all paths are valid”Oprah Winfrey movement in modern American Christianity and much more than likely at odds with their own faiths statements towards the LDS.

It is not fortunate that there are Christians that feel this way, indeed it is a tragedy, for in lacking the courage of their conviction they are willing to stand by as otherwise good people waltz into the gates of hell that Christians know in fact exists.

196 posted on 10/19/2010 11:59:44 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Bidimus1

I have read it.

Again, I know that Campbell disagreed with Smith, but that does NOT preclude that Rigdon (and Smith through Rigdon and other former Cambellites) used many of Campbell’s teachings and doctrines as a basis for Mormon theology.


198 posted on 10/19/2010 12:02:50 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: F15Eagle

placemarker


199 posted on 10/19/2010 12:03:06 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: reaganaut
Ok, I agree with that. Loving your neighbor includes not allowing him to believe in a Pagan (False) God, right?

The Church has a DUTY to protect itself from wolves in sheep’s clothing. Nothing wrong with that.

The family would have been allowed to participate, just not be in leadership. They weren’t shunned.

YHvH calls whom ever He chooses.(John 10:26-30)

The Ekklesia are all who have called out by YHvH.(Deu 4:10)

We are to love others as ourselves.(Lev 19:18)

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
200 posted on 10/19/2010 12:03:43 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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