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To: svcw

Hi svcw,

I think what you are referring to is the quote from President Gordon B. Hinckley where he said “The traditional Christ of whom they speak is not the Christ of whom I speak”. (LDS Church News, Saturday, 20 June 1998)

The traditional Christ is certainly different from the Biblical Christ. He was referring to the Christ defined in non-biblical creeds that have become the tradition in much of Christianity.

Latter-day Saints believe firmly in the Jesus Christ of the New Testament.

Best,

Normandy


179 posted on 09/02/2010 10:02:05 AM PDT by Normandy
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To: Normandy; svcw

Norm, you need to read Hinkley’s quote more closely, I provided an expanded citation. Hinkley defined the ‘Christ’ he was speaking of based upon Joseph Smith and his revelations - not the bible. That is a significant difference in definitions. AFA Christ defined in ‘non-biblical’ creeds, sorry no dice norm, those ‘creeds’ find their foundation in the NT, not extra biblical revelations and writings.


181 posted on 09/02/2010 10:06:27 AM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Normandy
Latter-day Saints believe firmly in the Jesus Christ of the New Testament.

If that were true how would they tell the difference?

186 posted on 09/02/2010 10:12:10 AM PDT by caww
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To: Normandy

ahhh, You quote your leaders saying they (lds) do not worship the Christ of the Bible, then tell me you (lds) worship the Christ of the Bible


188 posted on 09/02/2010 10:14:31 AM PDT by svcw (Everyday the enemy tries to offer you an apple, when God has already given us an orchard.)
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To: Normandy
Latter-day Saints believe firmly in the Jesus Christ of the New Testament.

The Jesus of scripture is not the spirit son of the father god and one of his wives. The Jesus of the bible is not the brother of Lucifer. The Jesus of the bible did not save men in the garden.

The mormon jesus has not likeness of the Jesus of the bible

190 posted on 09/02/2010 10:15:20 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Normandy; Godzilla; ejonesie22; Colofornian; colorcountry; SZonian
I think what you are referring to is the quote from President Gordon B. Hinckley where he said “The traditional Christ of whom they speak is not the Christ of whom I speak”. (LDS Church News, Saturday, 20 June 1998)

The traditional Christ is certainly different from the Biblical Christ. He was referring to the Christ defined in non-biblical creeds that have become the tradition in much of Christianity.

Latter-day Saints believe firmly in the Jesus Christ of the New Testament.

I see we have a brand new word game afoot from mormonism....or is it just a repeat of the early "all creeds are abominable" mantra from Joseph Smith?

Norm, Christians recognize mormons' right to worship any imaginary version of "Christ" they wish to, but that doesn't make mormonism Christian any more than parking a curelom in the garage makes it a car!

Where is your source for this "Christ defined in non-biblical creeds"? The Religion Moderator is a stickler for sources.

194 posted on 09/02/2010 10:24:58 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (BARF of the YEAR: Obama "We are God's partners in matters of life and death,")
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To: Normandy; caww

The Jesus of the Christan Bible is not the jesus of the mormons..

The Jesus ot the Christians is ..

Jesus, who is Eternal..

Jesus who is from everlasting to everlasting..

Jesus the Alpha and Omega..

Jesus, the Lamb of God..

Jesus who is God...

Jesus the Word of God...

Jesus who is the Second person of the Trinity..

Jesus who is the ONLY Begotten Son of the Father...

Jesus who was born of a virgin who never had sex with man or mormon god...

Jesus who shed His saving Blood UPON THE CROSS to save us...

Jesus who died UPON THE CROSS to save us...

Jesus who rose again the third day to save us...

Jesus who is Lord of Lords and King of Kings...

Jesus whom the false prophety, joey Smith lied about...

Jesus who never lost or moved HIS Church from the Earth (and why on Earth would He ???)

Jesus the Righteous who has never needed any foul evil Joey Smith to restore HIS Church..
(Anyone saying that JOey Smith so called “restored” the Church that Jesus built is being “insulting, degrading and blasphemous” to Jesus)

Jesus whom Joey Smith the liar never met...

Jesus who destroyed Joey Smith..

Jesus who judged Joey Smith as an unbeliever an an enemy of God and the Church.....

Jesus who condemned the disgraceful unrepentant sinner, Joey Smith to Hell ...

Jesus who is Savior of the Christians as Joey Smith is the false savior of the mormons...

Jesus who will judge who gets into the Christian Heaven while Joey Smith who claimed falsely it would be him is screaming for help in Hell that he earned...

That Jesus...


198 posted on 09/02/2010 10:29:51 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Normandy; svcw
I think what you are referring to is the quote from President Gordon B. Hinckley where he said “The traditional Christ of whom they speak is not the Christ of whom I speak”. (LDS Church News, Saturday, 20 June 1998) The traditional Christ is certainly different from the Biblical Christ. He was referring to the Christ defined in non-biblical creeds that have become the tradition in much of Christianity. Latter-day Saints believe firmly in the Jesus Christ of the New Testament.

Norm...What then will you try to do with this Ensign mag quote?

“It is true that many of the Christian churches worship a different Jesus Christ than is worshipped by the Mormons.” – LDS publication, Ensign Magazine, May 1977, p. 26

Please follow my logic here:
You said Lds believe in the Jesus Christ of the New Testament
Ensign magazine, the official mag of the Mormon church, says their Jesus Christ that is worshipped is distinct from msny of the Christian churches. [And please know that Ensign didn't turn around and add that many other Christian churches besides these worship the same Jesus as Mormons]

Therefore...
...if indeed the Jesus that Mormons believe and worship in is both the same as the biblical Jesus and is a different Jesus than the one worshipped by many Christian churches...
...then Ensign magazine -- and you have just "teamed up" 33 years apart to...
...accuse these "many...Christian churches of worshipping a Christ that is not the biblical Jesus.

Normandy, you and your hierarchy can't have it both ways: You can't have a distinctly worshipped Jesus and a biblical One without getting into the accusation business re: "many...Christian churches."

My take?
The Mormon official publication says they worship a different Christ...
The Mormon "prophet" (Hinckley) said they speak about, believe and acknowledge a different Christ [two different quotes on that from Hinckley]...

Christians say they worship, speak of and belief another Jesus...

So. We are all on the same page...
...so why are you and the Beck defenders so out of harmony with actually something we agree upon with official Mormondom???

272 posted on 09/04/2010 5:47:37 PM PDT by Colofornian
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