Intended Catholic Dictatorship

Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

[Hank Kerchief]

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]

Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)

[Quix]

Nevertheless there is that Encyclical wherein he advocates globalist control over economics, food production, distribution etc. in, imho, fairly clear terms.

[Quix]

INDEED.

[Mr. Lucky]

We don’t agree on much in religious discussions, but
you’ve nailed it this time.

[Global2010]

They have been busy calling out Glen Beck fans and disrupting the Restore to Honor threads.

[Quix]

Ain't that cute!
Blathering about
Roman Catholic
Plurality!
.
.
.
Wildly asserting
that the
Roman Catholic
system
is the
MOST
pluralistic
of all
over
all of
history!
.
.
.
Obviously,
The
Daffynitionary
is in use, yet again!
.
.
.
As well as
the talking
out of both sides
of their mouths and fingers!
.
.
.
Obviously, they are pluralistic
EXCEPT WHEN THEY AREN'T!
. . .
Which, we have repeatedly seen
is whenever it's more convenient
for propagandizing with all the
idolatrous, blasphemous blather
from the
Alice in Wonderland School of Theology and Reality Mangling.
.
.
.
it's like their saying that
The Roman Catholic Catechism
is a systematic, homogeneous, unified,
NONCONTRADICTORY
body of dogma and theology!
Cue Mutley.
Sigh.
.
.
.
I was tempted to pass this thread by. I have enjoyed the lack of such distasteful diatribes. However, given the lack of candor on the other side, it seems fitting that some more accurate assertions have fitting air time.

[Global2010]

It's that time of Month.

[Iscool]

If you do not accept the teaching of the Second Vatican Council, if you do not accept the teaching of the Catechism of the Catholic Church and if you do not acknowledge the Pope's teaching authority - well, you can call yourself whatever you want, but you're still not a Catholic.

That may be your view, or just wishful thinking, but that obviously is not the position of your pope and your religion...

Bad Catholics are still Catholics...

[Quix]

USUALLY that’s fine with me, too.

[Hank Kerchief]

“while the Puritans wanted to establish a theocracy, Roger Williams undid that”

Yes, that’s right. There is no threat of a “Catholic theocracy,” of course. The whole point is the effort by some Catholics to impose their religious views on others, which is very unlikely to be successful.

Hank

[Global2010]

[Quix]

The Church is not going to pretend false teachings aren't false.

EXCEPT, OF COURSE,
WHEN
THE VATICAN
IS PUSHING THEM,
OVERTLY
OR
COVERTLY
OR SEMI-COVERTLY.
.
.
.
such as:
.
.
.

ONCE AGAIN,
just a small part of
THE EVIDENCE: .
.
.

Here's the title:

http://www.amazon.com/Ten-Meditations-Mysteries-Rosary-Ferraro/dp/0819801577/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1272938246&sr=1-2

And it carries the official sanctions of:

ni•hil ob•stat
n.
1. Roman Catholic Church An attestation by a church censor that a book contains nothing damaging to faith or morals.
2. Official approval, especially of an artistic work.

WITH RICHARD CARDINAL CUSHING’S IMPRIMATUR

Let me track down the brief portion of quotes upthread . . .

Here they are:

However, as we've seen through a variety of sources--a pile of them in Ferraro's manual about the Rosary--the Roman Catholic et al/Vatican Edifice disagrees with a lot of the claims of RC's hereon to the contrary.

p.32
.
[Quixicated emphases below]
Mary is crowned Queen of heaven and earth, dispenser of all graces . . .

p32
4 - She became Queen of Purgatory, where she exercises her power as mediatrix in behalf of these suffering souls.

5 - She became Queen of us sinners, to assist us through the dangers of this life and to help us in difficulties.

6 - She became the ruler of hell, that trembles at her slightest gaze and is defeated by her power.

"Just as a rock extracted from earth will precipitate into the abyss, so will man, left without Mary's help, quickly slide toward hell." --Richard of St Victor

p37
Sacred Heart of Jesus, Thy kingdom come; Thy kingdom come through Mary! --Partial Indulgence

p41
"Mary is the tree of life to those who grasp her, and he is happy who hold her fast." --Prov. 3:18

p43
1 - "Hail Mary, beloved daughter of the Father, Mother of the Divine Son, Spouse of the Holy Spirit, complement of the most august Trinity!"

p45
6 - To her was granted grace greater than that conferred upon all others, 'that she might vanquish sin in every respect.'
.
[Qx: I guess Christ's vanquishing sin was unnecessary--or ineffectual without Mary's assistance?]

p46
7 - "Mary is the dawn of God because, just as the dawn marks the end of darkness and the beginning of day, so Mary indicates the end of vices and the beginning of virtue."
.
[Qx: I guess Christ's conquering on The Cross and HIS conquering trip to hell were unncessary?]

9 - God loved Mary so much that He gave her the keys to His heart. 'No one can go to God without Mary drawing him.'
.
[Qx: I guess Holy Spirit has been relegated to a 'Walter Mitty' role as spouse of Mary? That's SOME POWER to cancel & take over HOLY SPIRIT'S role to draw men to God!]

p47
4 - "Mary, trusting in the word of the angel, destroyed the sin Eve committed by trusting in the serpent.'
.
[Qx: Evidently, she beat Christ to the job of vanquishing sin!]

5 - "She desired the safety of everyone, went in search of it, and obtained it; it was also through her that this salvation was wrought."
.
[QX: What an unnecessary waste of precious Blood and suffering on THE CROSS!!!/sar]

p47
10 - "As Noah's Ark saved all the animals that entered it, so Mary saves all the souls that entrust themselves to her care."

p50
8 - "If she were not so holy as she is, how could God appoint her to be the ladder of Paradise, the advocate of the world, meatrix between HIm and us?"

p50
4 - "By becoming Mother of God, Mary belongs to the order of hypostatic union; hence she participates IN the infinite sanctity of God."

[Lee N. Field]

When Rome lifts the anathemas against all Protestants maybe Rome will have some credibility.

Indeed. "We unreformable!"

These days the tactic seems to be, appearing to agreeing with Protestants in ecumenical documents while very carefully saying nothing that contradicts holy mother church. Slumbering ecumenical minded protestants lap it up.

[RitaOK]

Rotfl. You have to be a marxist plant with leaves, and it won’t work. Catholics and Evangelicals, inspite of you and yours, have a sense of humor and today, you’re it. I’d want to rethink getting off those meds, before trying to divide Christians who are in the same fox hole.

[Hank Kerchief]

“Ive been a Catholic for close to 80 years and no one has dictated to me ever.”

Good for you, my friend. It should be so for everyone.

Hank

[Tax-chick]

As long as they don't show up at the office in uniform they're pretty benign. I'm all in favor of the occasional harmless eccentricity.

LOL - that's the spirit!

[Dr. Eckleburg]

The "problem" is that Protestants do not "curse to hell" Roman Catholics whereas Rome most certainly does "curse to hell" all Protestants who believe in the assurance of their salvation by Jesus Christ, men's only redeemer.

Big difference. It's the difference between a free society and a repressive junta, which is what this article addresses.

[Brian Kopp DPM]

Click on the link I provided, and the video should play as soon as the page loads.

[OpusatFR]

It’s a full moon. No wonder the loonies are loose.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

The "problem" is that Protestants do not "curse to hell" Roman Catholics whereas Rome most certainly does "curse to hell" all Protestants who believe in the assurance of their salvation by Jesus Christ, men's only redeemer.

Big difference. It's the difference between a free society and a repressive junta, which is what this article addresses.

From HERE

CARITAS IN VARITATE

67. In the face of the unrelenting growth of global interdependence, there is a strongly felt need, even in the midst of a global recession, for a reform of the United Nations Organization, and likewise of economic institutions and international finance, so that the concept of the family of nations can acquire real teeth. One also senses the urgent need to find innovative ways of implementing the principle of the responsibility to protect[146] and of giving poorer nations an effective voice in shared decision-making. This seems necessary in order to arrive at a political, juridical and economic order which can increase and give direction to international cooperation for the development of all peoples in solidarity.U>To manage the global economy; to revive economies hit by the crisis; to avoid any deterioration of the present crisis and the greater imbalances that would result; to bring about integral and timely disarmament, food security and peace; to guarantee the protection of the environment and to regulate migration: for all this, there is urgent need of a true world political authority, as my predecessor Blessed John XXIII indicated some years ago. Such an authority would need to be regulated by law, to observe consistently the principles of subsidiarity and solidarity, to seek to establish the common good[147], and to make a commitment to securing authentic integral human development inspired by the values of charity in truth. Furthermore, such an authority would need to be universally recognized and to be vested with the effective power to ensure security for all, regard for justice, and respect for rights[148]. Obviously it would have to have the authority to ensure compliance with its decisions from all parties, and also with the coordinated measures adopted in various international forums. Without this, despite the great progress accomplished in various sectors, international law would risk being conditioned by the balance of power among the strongest nations. The integral development of peoples and international cooperation require the establishment of a greater degree of international ordering, marked by subsidiarity, for the management of globalization[149]. They also require the construction of a social order that at last conforms to the moral order, to the interconnection between moral and social spheres, and to the link between politics and the economic and civil spheres, as envisaged by the Charter of the United Nations...

Anyone who reads this "need" for a "global authority with teeth" to regulate this country's financial systems, economic policies, politics, immigration regulations, food distribution, health care, etc., and doesn't see the obvious communism that is at the center of it is blind.

I bought the encyclical. I read the encyclical. And it was horrifying. Marx could have written it.

[Hank Kerchief]

“Click on the link I provided, and the video should play as soon as the page loads.”

Well the page loads, but there is nothing about a repudiation or apology for the original video. Perhaps I do not see it, but it is not there as far as I can see. But thank you for the effort.

Hank