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To: Unam Sanctam; Hank Kerchief
The "problem" is that Protestants do not "curse to hell" Roman Catholics whereas Rome most certainly does "curse to hell" all Protestants who believe in the assurance of their salvation by Jesus Christ, men's only redeemer.

Big difference. It's the difference between a free society and a repressive junta, which is what this article addresses.

From HERE

CARITAS IN VARITATE

67. In the face of the unrelenting growth of global interdependence, there is a strongly felt need, even in the midst of a global recession, for a reform of the United Nations Organization, and likewise of economic institutions and international finance, so that the concept of the family of nations can acquire real teeth. One also senses the urgent need to find innovative ways of implementing the principle of the responsibility to protect[146] and of giving poorer nations an effective voice in shared decision-making. This seems necessary in order to arrive at a political, juridical and economic order which can increase and give direction to international cooperation for the development of all peoples in solidarity.U>To manage the global economy; to revive economies hit by the crisis; to avoid any deterioration of the present crisis and the greater imbalances that would result; to bring about integral and timely disarmament, food security and peace; to guarantee the protection of the environment and to regulate migration: for all this, there is urgent need of a true world political authority, as my predecessor Blessed John XXIII indicated some years ago. Such an authority would need to be regulated by law, to observe consistently the principles of subsidiarity and solidarity, to seek to establish the common good[147], and to make a commitment to securing authentic integral human development inspired by the values of charity in truth. Furthermore, such an authority would need to be universally recognized and to be vested with the effective power to ensure security for all, regard for justice, and respect for rights[148]. Obviously it would have to have the authority to ensure compliance with its decisions from all parties, and also with the coordinated measures adopted in various international forums. Without this, despite the great progress accomplished in various sectors, international law would risk being conditioned by the balance of power among the strongest nations. The integral development of peoples and international cooperation require the establishment of a greater degree of international ordering, marked by subsidiarity, for the management of globalization[149]. They also require the construction of a social order that at last conforms to the moral order, to the interconnection between moral and social spheres, and to the link between politics and the economic and civil spheres, as envisaged by the Charter of the United Nations...

Anyone who reads this "need" for a "global authority with teeth" to regulate this country's financial systems, economic policies, politics, immigration regulations, food distribution, health care, etc., and doesn't see the obvious communism that is at the center of it is blind.

I bought the encyclical. I read the encyclical. And it was horrifying. Marx could have written it.

99 posted on 08/27/2010 5:15:33 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

“I bought the encyclical. I read the encyclical. And it was horrifying. Marx could have written it.”

I did not buy it, but read it (not the easiest thing I’ve ever done) and you have no idea how gratified I am to know another individual truly understands the significance of it. Thank you so much!!!

Hank


103 posted on 08/27/2010 5:27:33 PM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
I bought the encyclical. I read the encyclical. And it was horrifying. Marx could have written it.

I had no idea that Marx believed that the principles of subsidiarity must be observed or that the social order must conform to the moral order. I'm also not sure why one would identify the need for the regulation of migration with Marxist principles. I suppose if one didn't know what those terms even meant one might be inclined to think they were icky or something...

In any event I usually check the final paragraphs of modern encyclicals to get a general sense of what's being addressed and in the case of "Caritas in veritate" we find this:
79. Development needs Christians with their arms raised towards God in prayer, Christians moved by the knowledge that truth-filled love, caritas in veritate, from which authentic development proceeds, is not produced by us, but given to us. For this reason, even in the most difficult and complex times, besides recognizing what is happening, we must above all else turn to God's love. Development requires attention to the spiritual life, a serious consideration of the experiences of trust in God, spiritual fellowship in Christ, reliance upon God's providence and mercy, love and forgiveness, self-denial, acceptance of others, justice and peace. All this is essential if “hearts of stone” are to be transformed into “hearts of flesh” (Ezek 36:26), rendering life on earth “divine” and thus more worthy of humanity. All this is of man, because man is the subject of his own existence; and at the same time it is of God, because God is at the beginning and end of all that is good, all that leads to salvation: “the world or life or death or the present or the future, all are yours; and you are Christ's; and Christ is God's” (1 Cor 3:22-23). Christians long for the entire human family to call upon God as “Our Father!” In union with the only-begotten Son, may all people learn to pray to the Father and to ask him, in the words that Jesus himself taught us, for the grace to glorify him by living according to his will, to receive the daily bread that we need, to be understanding and generous towards our debtors, not to be tempted beyond our limits, and to be delivered from evil (cf. Mt 6:9-13).

Horrifying Marxism? Seriously?

105 posted on 08/27/2010 5:43:29 PM PDT by Legatus
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

So it seems, there IS indeed a reason for the Catholic Church to have both a political and religious system. And yet, not one Catholic so far as I have seen on this thread, either realizes it or admits it. Do they not know? Or care? Is Vatican City, as a sovereign state, indeed just so “small” that it is of no real consequence in the political systems of the world? Is it just a harmless system designed for their own protection against wolves at their door..or purposely designed, from the very beginning, as the supreme system of both religion and politics, an unholy alliance that has captured the imaginations of man all the way back to Babylon. “Let US build”.


106 posted on 08/27/2010 5:54:36 PM PDT by smvoice (smvoice- formally known as small voice in the wilderness. Easier on the typing!)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

“The “problem” is that Protestants do not “curse to hell” Roman Catholics...”

LOL, no they just damn them to hell, claim they believe horrific things, lie about them and when given political power over them, deprive them of their rights, property and even lives. Nasty buggers those anti-Catholic bigots.


115 posted on 08/27/2010 6:30:39 PM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Dr. Eck,
glad to hear you’re not an international Marxist.


194 posted on 08/27/2010 9:33:18 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT ("pray without ceasing" - Paul of Tarsus)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Pure evil !


388 posted on 08/29/2010 12:11:28 AM PDT by Lera
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"I bought the encyclical."

The Encyclical was never for sale, it is available free on the Vatican website. We can therefore conclude that the rest of of the posting is equally bogus.

396 posted on 08/29/2010 8:12:05 AM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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