Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
You keep trying to put words in my mouth. I addressed my post to an individual. That individual wasn't you. :-) But if you just want my advice in general, increase the road work and eat plenty of wheaties. :-)
What evidence would convince you, friend?
LOLOL! I’m not trying to put words in your mouth, but thanks for the advice. :)
No danger in that from me. I was trying to give an analogy in terms a Protestant could relate to. I have found that getting just the basic idea communicated cuts through three-fourths of the common objections.
So what we have here is either a Four Square slave or a New Age Mumbo Jumbo adherent. Confess now for the Truth of Jesus will set you free
This thread gets more interesting as the truth unfolds. What we need here are depositions of the unwashed.
Forget that Catholic stuff. The thread needs to know just what each individual non catholic poster believes. The intro of New Age space cadets changes the entire landscape.
All along I blamed the poor misguided protestants. Sorry Martin and sorry Calvin
What about a prearranged power hour of truth where each non Catholic divulges his/her spiritual treasures and can pick a jury of peers to make remarks
God judges and we listen. Remember MT 7:1 if you are a christian . If not then refer to the New Age Mumbo Jumbo manual issued by science fiction manual.
THAT’S
certainly been part of my sense, too.
THX THX.
You would make a great bureaucrat working for the "Ministry of Tolerance Compliance and Noncompliance."
This is what happens when we have "Religious Moderators." The once Free Republic has turned into the Federal Government.
Creeping tyranny.
How many categories of "Speshul" threads do we now have in the Religion section? I can't even keep them all straight. What are they again? "Caucus" and "Ecumenical" and "Open"....except on Thursdays of course. I know I am missing at least one other ridiculous farce of a category.
You know how we got those? Because of whining posters who were losing the argument.
You should have just let them whine. Good luck trying to close your own Pandora's box.
However, here is a suggestion.
Go back to this criteria that is listed on every post:
Please: NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts."
There.
That wasn't so hard. It seems to work for economics, politics, socials issues, literature, music, culture, chat, sports, opinion, news, elections, and just about every other category here on FR under the sun.
Under your rules, Jesus Christ would be banned from this forum for "making it personal."
P.S. If you don't see the insanity of what you are doing and/or trying to do, God help you.
Does not warrent a response....for reasons any reader certainly will understand.
THANKS.
1. UFO’s ARE REAL . . . absolutely no doubt.
2. UFO’s at this point are both man made and ‘other’ made.
3. It does NOT MATTER whether the critters are
. . . A) demons or
. . . B) fallen angels or
. . . C) citizens of distant planets who are more or less ‘human’ or otherwise.
4. ALL the known ones I’ve read anything about are clearly in cahoots toward establishing/helping establish the satanic global government spoken of in Biblical End Times Prophecy.
5. Different ‘races’ of them may play a GOOD-COP/BAD-COP ROLE wherein one race is cast as conquering invaders and a different race or set of race are cast as protectors/defenders of earth and humans. It will be a sham—the end goal is to coerce the citizens into a tyrannical global government.
6. I believe that they are part and parcel of the Biblical END TIMES GREAT DECEPTION BECAUSE they will be extremely persuasive about “creating man,” bioengineering all the religious greats of history—FOR SOCIAL ENGINEERING PURPOSES—including Jesus—performing miracles through their technologies—and purportedly having very convincing 3D holographic “histories” “proving” such.
7. They are behind the environmental push having convinced the globalist elites that if they do not reduce the world’s population down to 200 million by force ASAP, humans and the planet will not survive as a viable sphere for life.
8. I guess that’s a fair very brief summary.
9. NO, I DO NOT BELIEVE IN ANY UFO CULT. ANY ASSERTIONS TO THE CONTRARY ARE NOT REMOTELY BASED IN THE LEAST BIT OF FACT.
10. NO, I DO NOT PER SE LIKE THE TOPIC. I DO NOT LIKE UFO’S. I CERTAINLY DO NOT LIKE FALLEN ANGEL ET’S. ANY ASSERTIONS TO THE CONTRARY ARE BRAZENLY AVOIDING ALL THE TRUTH AND FACTS RELATED THERETO.
11. IT IS AN ASSIGNMENT FROM THE LORD that I’ve often offered up to Him and He has repeatedly given it back to me. It is part of my Watchman duties.
12. by Guy Malone has an extensive set of DVD based documentation from a world renowned panel of experts laying out with extensive research a very convincing case for the ET’s being fallen angels.
13. He also has documentation on 400 cases of how THE BLOOD AND NAME OF JESUS in standard spiritual warfare strategies have prevented or stopped that many UFO/ET ABDUCTIONS.
14. At this point, after researching the topic since 1961-1962, there’s a LOT of things I no longer doubt at all. Many things I still hold loosely but mostly believe. And, there are many things that are greatly puzzling if not grossly mystifying. So, for many things I wait and see what God confirms and what He disconfirms.
15. I had a relative work at such a secret site that he saw UFO’s coming and going routinely from an adjacent highly secret site in Nevada. He also happened to visit the Aztec crash site a week or so after the crash and saw the big truck tire tracks etc. at that site.
16. One of our own FREEPERS was the 10-11 year old son of Jesse Marcel Sr . . . who is a VERY decorated Army MD surgeon who at more than 70 years, IIRC, did more than one tour in Iraq because his specialty was in such short supply. It was he who, when he was that child was awakened in the middle of the night by his dad who was on the dad’s way to taking samples of the Roswell debris back to the base. Jesse Jr handled both the foil that returned to it’s shape when crumpled as well as the light weight metal “I” beam with very strange symbols on it.
17. ANYONE calling me a liar about such would, essentially, also be calling this highly decorated FREEPER Army MD Iraq Vet a liar about his experiences when he was 10-11 years old.
18. They would also be calling a number of astronauts liars who have increasingly been enboldened to come clean about what they know and have seen in terms of UFO’s and ET’s.
19. However, it goes with the territory of being Quix.
20. Far too soon, they will have to yet again eat crow about being critically horrifically terminally wrong about a dramatic truth they COULD have, instead, been helping prepare Christians to face. God have mercy on their cluelessness then.
Are you referring to the RC installed targets on a couple of us?
There are no protestants present just Unitarians, New Age, Four Square, Deniers of the divinity of Jesus and assortments of other non confessing spirits. Those with the white hankies comprise the rest of the thread
If you want protestants look elsewhere as it appears after the True Confessions this afternoon we never had any on this thread.
Can you envision me as the Religious Moderator? We would have objective law and order
INDEED.
LOL.
You got sumpin’ against goobers?
I was just talking about rhetoric and the form of statements, not the content. I think both sides have some heavy rhetorical artillery and aren’t afraid to use it.
I find it rather interesting that the mockery and derision of this as a possibility comes from the camp who sees images of Christ or Mary in things like stains on floors, burnt toast, or tree bark. Any people’s ready to believe that kind of nonsense is more than ripe for believing in alien abduction. Catholicism does little or nothing to protect its adherents from superstitious nonsense.
INDEED.
Good for you, marginalize a whole group of people that dont hold the same world view as you do and then ridicule (persecute) them for their beliefs. After all where do they get off thinking they have rights. Agree with the collective, eh comrade? no individualism, no free thinkers allowed in our barracks, one size fits all
INDEED.
HOWEVER . . . . it’s been the Vatican way for centuries.
good perception...
DIVIDE AND CONQUER
DIVIDE AND CONQUER
DIVIDE AND CONQUER
ANOTHER aspect of the centuries long strategies of the Vatican.
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