Intended Catholic Dictatorship

Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

[Hank Kerchief]

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]

Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)

[presently no screen name]

You can make anything about something! There is NOTHING new under the sun when it comes to thin skin.

PC/thin skin - liberal tactics. Use it - the cover is obviously NEEDED!

I’ll leave you guys to toughen up. Christianity is for real men who don’t crumble at TRUTH.

[Quix]

I’ll leave you guys to toughen up. Christianity is for real men who don’t crumble at TRUTH.

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INDEED.

[Pyro7480]

[presently no screen name]

LOL!! SPOT ON!!!

[wmfights]

Acts 17:24 The God who made the world and everything in it, being Lord of heaven and earth, does not live in temples made by man, 25nor is he served by human hands, as though he needed anything, since he himself gives to all mankind life and breath and everything.

Wow, what a great verse. We got started on this and I never had a chance to start going through my Bible. Thanks!

[Iscool]

1. The post was directed at "presently no screen name", not you as pnsm was debating the entire Pentecosatl mumbling in tongues

And my post was directed at you..

3. Whichever the unknown languages, in the Gospel they were always languages that exist, not random garblings that we see in the Pentec-oastal meetings

Really??? If you chose to speak in Croatian right now you can do that???

[presently no screen name]

I agree! Acts 17:24 The God who made the world and everything in it, being Lord of heaven and earth, does not live in temples made by man,25nor is he served by human hands, as though he needed anything, since he himself gives to all mankind life and breath and everything.

[presently no screen name]

Are you saying I’m a troll?

First of all - show me where! Put up or shut up!

Secondly - Isn’t it YOU who sent a post to me about Making a thread “about” another Freeper is “making it personal.”

RM - Is this not over the top in making it personal?

[bronx2]

In scrutinizing this post which might well border on slander, ones attention is immediately drawn to the statement”How about considering this sort of post.. (Referencing post 2394, one I had made) a frequent type by this poster essentially JUDGING some Proddys salvation as being nonexistent etc” “saying the a proddy is going to hell”

1. It is God's domain to decide the judgment of souls .I merely apply known facts from you and your associates posts and apply said assertions to Sacred Scripture for enlightenment . If this makes one feel uncomfortable then one will have to examine their conscience in light of the words of our dear Savior.

2.Who are these proddys? Are they children of God or followers of Mary who is addressed in the third rate obscure booklet you found . Oh wait, such local meaningless pamphlets seem to garner orgasmic states of exuberance. So for you maybe they are therapeutic.

3. Protestants are well advised to strictly follow the precepts of the bible for remember 'Sola Scriptura" is the watchword of the day.

4. In my Bible classes which I conduct for evangelicals and fundamentalists considering entering the Church, I demonstrate the mindset of your belief type. I do this with your cartoons and other messages like the local pamphlet on Mary which are eyeopeners. Keep up the good work as it mitigates the preparation time needed to prepare in the disseminate of the Gospel of Jesus Your contributions today will kickoff next Mondays session on rash judgment unless you can provide me better material.

God bless

[Pyro7480]

If you’re going to complain about my posts, you’re going to have to complain about Quix’s use of the donkey.

[bronx2]

No way should you complain. . Please, I use his postings in my bible class of protestants considering entering the church and they serve as an invaluable tool in demonstrating the Christian mindset of these folks. Keep these posts coming and ignore the admonitions to cease and desist.

[D-fendr]

How many 'times' and 'ways' did you ask?

Pretty much the same way, several times, until it became obvious you just weren't gonna give a real answer to it.

And you kept getting an answer that you rejected over and over.

Well, duh. "An" answer like "Be Holy Spirit filled" etc. is not "an" answer to the question. It's very simple: simple question/simple answer. Rather than "I KNOW who I AM “IN CHRIST”! PRAISE GOD! THANK YOU, JESUS!"

Then I asked why you had such a problem with this particular question. With similar results.

I apologize, your reactions indicate you don't like discourse, just one-way proclamations - with screaming caps.

That's fine.

[presently no screen name]

Stop pointing fingers!! OWN up and take responsibility for what YOU DID! And don’t tell me what I should complain about.

I’m still waiting for you to PUT UP or shut up - in your proof that I am a troll! NOW! It didn’t take you this long to put that post up - now DEFEND IT and stop hiding behind a laughing dog.

[Pyro7480]

Now who’s whining?

[Quix]

USE
OF SUCH
PICS/GIFS
IS
A
TIME
HONORED
!!!!!TRADITION!!!!!
ON FR
FROM THE BEGINNING.
And here I thought
ALL
THE RC'S
EVERYWHERE
BOWED LOW
BEFORE THE ALTAR
OF
!!!!!TRADITION!!!!!
WHO'D A THUNK!
BTW,
THAT'S A GREAT
DEMONSTRATION
OF
THIN-SKINNED
WAILING AND WHINING!
CONGRATS!

[Pyro7480]

You’re a riot.

[presently no screen name]

Well, duh. "An" answer like "Be Holy Spirit filled" etc. is not "an" answer to the question

It's NOT? Your question was asking what God says. I said ask HIM, HIS WORD is there for you. And since HIS WORD is spiritually discerned -one needs to be filled with the HOLY SPIRIT.

I apologize, your reactions indicate you don't like discourse, just one-way proclamations - with screaming caps.

I don't need an apology. And DON'T read my mind - and post what YOU THINK I like or don't like. What is obvious is you keep discounting the answer I GIVE because you want it YOUR WAY. Manipulation. And I'll use CAPS anytime I want to - so stop with your intimidation.

I answered over and over - you REJECT them over and over. How is that a ONE-WAY discourse - based on your claim and you making it personal?

[D-fendr]

Your question was asking what God says.

How many times do I have to say "the question asks for your view" before it sinks in? After a while I have to think it's intentionally dodging.

I answered over and over - you REJECT them over and over

Never a real answer to the simple question. My "rejection" consisted of "That's nice, but the question was.."

you want it YOUR WAY

The way of discourse is to ask and answer questions and discuss the answers. It's not *my* way.

You don't want to answer it, fine. But pretending you answered it is just not gonna wash. No matter how huffy the pretense is.

[presently no screen name]

The way of discourse is to ask and answer questions and discuss the answers. It's not *my* way.

I gave you the answer to your question about 'what does God say'... And it is most certainly 'your' way - other wise it's a one-way discussion to you if you don't get what YOU want.

But pretending you answered it is just not gonna wash. No matter how huffy the pretense is.

And pretending I didn't answer because YOU REJECTED the answer over and over has NEVER washed. And in an attempt to have 'your own way' by asking over and over when I answered but you rejected it is indeed HUFFY and controlling. You will have to accept you don't control how I answer questions.

If God's Word and being Holy Spirit filled is not good enough for you - stay with man made doctrine that needs no spiritual discernment since they aren't God's WORD. And on that note - I'm finished responding to your endless dribble and you 'reading my mind' against RM rules.

[presently no screen name]

I’m still waiting. Either you have that post pulled and apologize or you prove your accusation.